What in the hell makes you think you have any idea what type of a guy I am?? You completely missed my point--- I HAVE NOTHING AGAIST KLIM!!! and no- I don't expect them to invite me into their office and show me their books! My point is that i am sick of everyone saying that "you need to buy klim because they support snowmobiling". I can support snowmobiling on my own.... I don't have to go through klim. If you want their gear then you should buy it- but No-- I don't feel that because they give a undisclosed amount to snowmobiling i need to use their gear. Does that make sense to a guy like you?
North face or Columbia gear...anyone use?
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What in the hell makes you think you have any idea what type of a guy I am?? You completely missed my point--- I HAVE NOTHING AGAIST KLIM!!! and no- I don't expect them to invite me into their office and show me their books! My point is that i am sick of everyone saying that "you need to buy klim because they support snowmobiling". I can support snowmobiling on my own.... I don't have to go through klim. If you want their gear then you should buy it- but No-- I don't feel that because they give a undisclosed amount to snowmobiling i need to use their gear. Does that make sense to a guy like you?
While they may well value their customers, I for one, will not be one of them for the simple fact that they choose to farm out thousands of potential american jobs to foreign countries, and by doing so are helping to drive the American economy into the toilet. Their prices are as if they are made by American workers, instead they are likely made by underage workers in sweatshops only making enough for a bowl of rice a day and they are pocketing the $300 plus dollars per garment profit while they screw you.
Of course they are willing to warranty your purchases, it likely cost them less than $50 per garment so for what they charge they could warranty them about eight times before it cuts into their bottom line.
I will spend my money where it will help America get back to the superpower it once was.
Umm..... sorry but it really doesnt make any sense.
No one is forcing you to buy Klim, or "need to use their gear".
I dont buy Klim because they donate to our sport, I buy thier gear because it kicks ***....but it is a bonus that they donate $$ to sledding.
Thanks Klim, some of us appreciate what you do for sledding and you definitely dont need to put up with Mr Deeds passive-aggressive behavoir.
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Yes, some of us do understand that you don't have to buy gear from a specific manufacturer because they support snowmobiling. IMO KLIM consistently provides some of the very best clothing available for sledders AND they do so while supporting our sport with a portion of their profits, which profits us all. Cool.
Of course you don't need to buy KLIM gear to support snowmobiling. Please do continue to support sledding on your own as we all should. Buy the gear that you like best.
You could make the choice to buy their gear knowing it is among the very best rider specific clothing available, with an excellent warranty, and that the company makes an effort to back our sport with a portion of their profits.
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Loud who makes great outdoor gear in the US or Canada? What car do you drive? What phone, computer, TV, motorcycle, gun do you own? Everything you own is MADE IN AMERICA right? That argument is basically laughable. Do you know that while the Iphone is made in China over 90% of the value of that product is made in the US and stays in the US? The "making" of so many goods is just like that. That $400 coat probably costs Klim under $100 in China. The design, marketing, distribution, and support is all in the US. The retailer takes probably 40% of that price too. You have a very simple view of the world and if our government had the same view our economy would be a tiny fraction of what it is. And we would still be driving the crap that Detroit turned out in the 70s and 80s. Competition turned Ford, GM and Chrysler into top notch manufacturers. Take an economics class and maybe a couple of business classes and your own world might expand a lot too. 
back to OP's question, I have always found my north-face fleece/coat to be dam near indestructible and both have amazing quality. Despite their huge cost they are worth it cuz they look great and perform great.
If u want snowpants however go with castlex. Cheap and great product to boot.
If u want snowpants however go with castlex. Cheap and great product to boot.
Yes, some of us do understand that you don't have to buy gear from a specific manufacturer because they support snowmobiling. IMO KLIM consistently provides some of the very best clothing available for sledders AND they do so while supporting our sport with a portion of their profits, which profits us all. Cool.
Of course you don't need to buy KLIM gear to support snowmobiling. Please do continue to support sledding on your own as we all should. Buy the gear that you like best.
You could make the choice to buy their gear knowing it is among the very best rider specific clothing available, with an excellent warranty, and that the company makes an effort to back our sport with a portion of their profits.
Snowest diagnosis provided by Psy.D. CRFfred...
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Loud who makes great outdoor gear in the US or Canada? What car do you drive? What phone, computer, TV, motorcycle, gun do you own? Everything you own is MADE IN AMERICA right? That argument is basically laughable. Do you know that while the Iphone is made in China over 90% of the value of that product is made in the US and stays in the US? The "making" of so many goods is just like that. That $400 coat probably costs Klim under $100 in China. The design, marketing, distribution, and support is all in the US. The retailer takes probably 40% of that price too. You have a very simple view of the world and if our government had the same view our economy would be a tiny fraction of what it is. And we would still be driving the crap that Detroit turned out in the 70s and 80s. Competition turned Ford, GM and Chrysler into top notch manufacturers. Take an economics class and maybe a couple of business classes and your own world might expand a lot too.
I'm not saying to buy crap just because it was made in the USA! On the other hand it is your money and you will spend it the way you want and should, just saying the more foreign stuff we buy the more American jobs we lose, which ultimatly hurts our economy and increases our unemployment rate.
I really don't doubt that the secular community is teaching world economics that models your ideals or at least views. But they are wrong! Most are democratics and I don't agree with their views either.
We will likely never agree on this so why don't we move on, didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.
The part about this your missing is in most of these cases including Klim the more foreign stuff you buy the more American jobs you create to help the economy. It sounds like Klim provides over 100 people with American jobs and does so at a hugh cost. As has been stated they could move foreign and save 30 -40 % on taxes. All of the companies MatteMurder listed provide hundreds of thousands of American jobs but to do so they have to do some parts of their production foreign.
I'm not missing anything, it is a business choice they have made, pure and simple. They do not have to send a single job overseas nor buy foreign materials, they have chosen to! That is my point. As is is my point we can choose to buy from them or not. It is in our best interest to buy American and keep ourselves employed first. For some businesses it is entirely about the profit and while they could achieve the same price point with the entire company and production in the USA they may or may not make the same profit. That is the business decision they made and therefore I for one will not buy or endorse their stuff. Besides I find it ugly and bland to boot. As hard as he is defending it, one might infer that he has a interest in their success, whether sponsored, shareholder, employee, owner, ect.
So.... I give one of your posts a thumbs down-- and then you go back and give all of mine a thumbs down..... And i have passive-aggressive behavoir?? (just for kicks i did rate some more of your posts.... just the same amount of red as you gave me)
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Yup, give me a red rep and I went back gave you red rep. If you cant take it then dont dish it out. Stop crying about it, is that passive enough for ya retodd?
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"Retodd"?? Wow... to say something like that (on a public forum... when we probably live hundreds of miles away) is very brave of you... You must not be the giant ***** i took you for!
Seriously.... I don't know what your problem is-- I never said anything about you. I stated my oppinion about purchasing Klim clothing- You must be one seriously devoted customer. Keep up the good work. If you kiss their *** anymore i wouldn't be surprised if you get a 10% off coupon for your next purchase.
"Retodd"?? Wow... to say something like that (on a public forum... when we probably live hundreds of miles away) is very brave of you... You must not be the giant ***** i took you for!
Seriously.... I don't know what your problem is-- I never said anything about you. I stated my oppinion about purchasing Klim clothing- You must be one seriously devoted customer. Keep up the good work. If you kiss their *** anymore i wouldn't be surprised if you get a 10% off coupon for your next purchase.
I get that you dont agree with Klim donating money to help sledding. And you shouldnt be presured into buying there clothing because of it. You continuously asked for info from them that you knew they probably wouldnt/coudnt give to you hence when I said you were being passive aggresive. I took offense to you baggering a company (that actually helps sledders) like they are on trial.
Then you red repped on that post, so I returned the favor (no biggy) then you complain about it
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To the OP I would go for gear catered to sledders.
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I don't agree with them donating money?? I thanked them for it... and I also said that it was great gear (while you say i was bashing them).
But I guess that you and your little buddy Kopaka took offense with that.
This post must of been mistake then. I guess by repeatedly asking for $$$ values of how much they donate, you could validate your below comments and prove to all of us that they do not donate to our sport.
Do you feel better? I gave you a big Thanks and a thumbs up for your last post. Can you move on now?
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Keep supporting the "greenies" wearing that crap and you wont have anywhere to ride!!!!!!
try looking at the oakley gear line,i bought their stuff last year and i'm more than pleased with it and it's not expencive.
Im looking for gear that stands up to Snowbiking, cuz you really get snow on you?? Im thinking E-vent which means Motorfist??? I too am tired of Black or Black or that other color,, Black
I have some extra yellow (limited like a Redline snowmobile), red and green (I think) zipper pulls. It changes it up and makes you look different then the other guy.
Yes we are the only place you can get eVENT. WE HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE.
THE STOMPER boot is the best boot for snowbiking. In my humble opinion. Sleek and non-bulky. ANd maybe 5 HP gain
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