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New York "Biker Gang"

milehighassassin

milehighassassin

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Pathetic. Mob Mentality. This story is getting bigger and bigger. Group of bikes surrounds SUV. They get the SUV to run into one of them and then they procede to harrass and follow them, blocking the SUV in. SUV clearly scared since the guy has his wife and daughter with him, end up running over a bike to escape. They finally box in SUV, smash out windows and beat the driver.

Long story short, 1 confirmed undercover cop is among them. He does nothing and it is now rumored that he actually smashed out a window. There is a rumor that there were 5 other cops among the group.

Biker who was ran over has over 18 tickets, hasn't had a license since 1999 and never applied for a motorcycle permit.

Amazing this didn't happen sooner with how the group acts.

Stories and videos:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...nother-critical-in-nyc-range-rover-chase?lite

http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/bikers-have-long-history-of-terrorizing-motorists/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10...-manhattan-motorcycle-suv-brawl-due-in-court/
 
The icing on the cake was the biker that was run over family came out and said that he was just an innocent bystander who was just trying to help the guy who fell over in front of the SUV after having his back wheel hit while trying to slow the SUV to a stop..... Priceless

Now just breaking out a window of a car could be argued by a high priced attorney as property damage and doesn't give you the right to shoot someone. Not saying that I wouldn't have the same ide, I am just saying that you have to live with the consequences of your action Which history of the court systems has proven over and over again may not be how you pictured it going into the situation.
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
Thats why I carry a GUN.

When his window was broken in was the point the suv driver was
within his legal right to shoot that POS.
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So the driver pulls out a gun and shoots the guy (potentially kills him), then the bikers pull out there guns and shoot the driver (potentially kills the driver). Being in the moment the bikers shoot the other people in the vehicle potentailly killing the wife and the KID!

I dont get it, please explain how the gun would be a good idea...

Instead no shots fired, a little worse for wear but still alive.
 
bholmlate said:
Now just breaking out a window of a car could be argued by a high priced attorney as property damage and doesn't give you the right to shoot someone. Not saying that I wouldn't have the same ide, I am just saying that you have to live with the consequences of your action Which history of the court systems has proven over and over again may not be how you pictured it going into the situation.
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Its a fine line for sure! I've taken several self defense & concealed firearm permit classes and most talked about this very situation. As soon as he broke the window the intent to do harm was there. What happened next? They drug him out of the car and beat the crap out of him.

Again.... ............Bang

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No different than this bum, as soon as he broke the side window out the intent to do harm is there. BANG Bang. Now if all he does is beats up the outside, like maybe breaks a headlight then no you cant shoot him and expect to get away with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d86tmZO600
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
Its a fine line for sure! I've taken several self defense & concealed firearm permit classes and most talked about this very situation. As soon as he broke the window the intent to do harm was there. What happened next? They drug him out of the car and beat the crap out of him.

Again.... ............Bang
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I agree 100% blitz.i have a .45 that stays in my truck at all times.13 rounds and a don't f*ck with me attitude help me sleep at nite!
 
I wouldn't care if there was 5 or 50 of them, MOST people start to change their minds & attitudes when looking down the BARREL of my 45 long slide.

On a side note I ride Harley's & these "D" bags got what was coming to them! Kinda laughed a little when I saw the Range Rover go 4X4 mode on them.
 
My gun stays in the truck. ALWAYS!! For this reason. And I drive a REALLY big truck :D
 
gmustangt said:
So the driver pulls out a gun and shoots the guy (potentially kills him), then the bikers pull out there guns and shoot the driver (potentially kills the driver). Being in the moment the bikers shoot the other people in the vehicle potentailly killing the wife and the KID!

I dont get it, please explain how the gun would be a good idea...

Instead no shots fired, a little worse for wear but still alive.
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I guess when you got a mob of guys thinking in NO sort of logical order about to tear you out of the vehicle.. are you feeling like the are medically proficient enough to know how far to beat you without killing you?? Not to mention your wife and kid are now helpess. I dont like to get to speculate to much on what could/can happen, but mob mentality is a scary thing, and being on the receiving end is not somewhere anyone wants to be.

Not to sound like a crazy, but theres 8 rounds in the .45 30 in the ar the 870 and 22 in the backseat most days in the truck. if people are going to act like animals, they will be responded to in the same maner.
 
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Wheel House Motorsports said:
I guess when you got a mob of guys thinking in NO sort of logical order about to tear you out of the vehicle.. are you feeling like the are medically proficient enough to know how far to beat you without killing you?? Not to mention your wife and kid are now helpess. I dont like to get to speculate to much on what could/can happen, but mob mentality is a scary thing, and being on the receiving end is not somewhere anyone wants to be.

Not to sound like a crazy, but theres 8 rounds in the .45 30 in the ar the 870 and 22 in the backseat most days in the truck. if people are going to act like animals, they will be responded to in the same maner.
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Ok but 99% of the time someone is jumped without the use of a weapon they live to talk about it.

Would you rather be hit by 50 punches/kicks? or 50 bullets?

If you have you and your one gun verse 30 guys and 30 guns would you shoot one guy to have 29 others shoot at you?

The end results speak for itself when there werent bullets flying.

No one pulled the wife or kid out to beat them up... if they were shooting at the car, much higher chance of the wife / kid being dead. They are not gonna be hit by punches flying array.

Obviously im taking a Canadian view on the topic and im not going to win this discussion, but there is no way bullets flying would have been better.
 
We can what if it to death, I would have defended myself instead of
taking an azz beating and hoping they didnt rape and kill my wife
and child. Bikers were in the wrong from the start.
 
gmustangt said:
Ok but 99% of the time someone is jumped without the use of a weapon they live to talk about it.

Would you rather be hit by 50 punches/kicks? or 50 bullets?

If you have you and your one gun verse 30 guys and 30 guns would you shoot one guy to have 29 others shoot at you?

The end results speak for itself when there werent bullets flying.

No one pulled the wife or kid out to beat them up... if they were shooting at the car, much higher chance of the wife / kid being dead. They are not gonna be hit by punches flying array.

Obviously im taking a Canadian view on the topic and im not going to win this discussion, but there is no way bullets flying would have been better.
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you can walk with the sheep, but my eyes are wide open.you threaten me or my son, im will shoot without hesitation.its my right.
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
We can what if it to death, I would have defended myself instead of
taking an azz beating and hoping they didnt rape and kill my wife
and child. Bikers were in the wrong from the start.
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Totally agree and not a situation you want to be in!
 
bottom line is this the driver of the car was in fear for their lives

you could tell those were a bunch of punks, idiot that got ran over should know the rules of the road, you don't get in the way of a vehicle much bigger than you on a bike. he's the reason he got ran over- Dumbazz
 
gmustangt said:
Ok but 99% of the time someone is jumped without the use of a weapon they live to talk about it.

Would you rather be hit by 50 punches/kicks? or 50 bullets?

If you have you and your one gun verse 30 guys and 30 guns would you shoot one guy to have 29 others shoot at you?

The end results speak for itself when there werent bullets flying.

No one pulled the wife or kid out to beat them up... if they were shooting at the car, much higher chance of the wife / kid being dead. They are not gonna be hit by punches flying array.

Obviously im taking a Canadian view on the topic and im not going to win this discussion, but there is no way bullets flying would have been better.
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Americans don't see things the same way we do. Slightly offcamber thinking to us.

While I AGREE that I would go down protecting my family by any means I could, that doesn't mean I pull out my lone gun against 30+ bikers carrying many more weapons than me.

As soon as I fire that first shot, they start littering my vehicle with bullets, with my wife and kid inside. That's not a smart move, I don't care how gun-proud you are.
 
You guys from the north are missing the point. They could have just as easily killed this guy. You guys have the mind set that every mob is just going to knock you around a bit and send you on your way. He was lucky.

Don't forget that SUV comes equipped with reverse!
 
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No they are just smart enough to realize they might kill the driver, but they wont accidentally kill the wife/kid.

I'd be willing to die being passive than go out guns blazing and risk my wife or child getting riddled with bullets accidentally. Maybe that is just me.
 
They won't? What's to stop them? Most gangs love raping and killing women.
We can beat this to death.
 
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