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Need some opinions

hey i am going out west for the first time in my life (yellowstone) in feb. and dont know what to do i have 06 fusion 600 with a 1 3/4 backcountry track ive regeared clutched air horn jetted nothing major. i want to take this out thier but am very worried about holding the group back. their will be about 2-3 other shorttrackers the rest are 144s i was thinking about a couple options

A. just take mine out and ride

B. tracks usa 136 extensions and 1.75 backcountry track

C. tracks usa 144 extensions and a different track nothing over 1.75

D. rent a longtracked at $150-200 a day (really dont want to do)

E.purchase a mid 90s polaris chassis for $400 find a motor, 144 skid and track and bring both sleds. (very tight for cash) this would run me right around 1800 bucks providing haydays has some good stuff

F. punt

heres the deal the group im goin to go with are slighty older then me and keep telling me they dont ride very hard and the last 2 years they went theve only had about a 2 ft base and a foot of powder plus they may be longrtracked but they are all 1.25"


okay so say i choose option A,B or C what jets are you flatlanders changing to and what weights should i use. i have the epi maroon spring currently and have 400/410 mains dont remember right now. i think my gearing would be fine for out their dont remember that either but its low my top speed on the lake is 81-82 mph

and lastly yea yea i know my grammer sucks big time
 
If you can rodeo that unit just giver!!! back when 136 was a mountain sled i rode with a guy that ran a 1.75 shorty and he took it almost everywhere, just ran the tracks after 15 minutes and had balls like a titanium bull on crack!!
 
well i dont know if people would consider me crazy but ill will pretty much try anything on my sled whats the worst that can happen you get stuck if you cant make it up . also im about 265lb in gear do you think being heavy helps or hurts being a shorttracker in pow.
 
I would just take your sled the way it is... I rode a 02 Edge X shorty with a 1.5 ripsaw for a few years and took it in some powder... Just have to know what you can and cant go thru... And probably be on the throttle a little more too...

Although a 136 conversion would be pretty on that sled too... tough call....
good luck on your decision....


CK
 
i would like the extra track on the ground but is a 121 to 136 worth it its only an extra 7 inches on the ground i think i 144 would be a bit better (is that a word) as its prolly about 10 inches more on the ground? but do you think i got enough power to turn the 144?
 
Just rent a new mountain sled while your there. Less hassle, and your guaranteed to have a great time with no worries. JM2C
 
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I would go for the 136". You would have plenty of track speed with the 136". I remember when the 136" track was a huge track, back when I had a 88 Phazer with a 121". How times have changed.
 
You should have enough power to turn a 144", but u might want to gear down a bit thou...

I know people who put 144" tracks on 600s and they don't have too much trouble... actually I am in the process of converting a 600 121" into a 144"... we are gearing down and changing drivers thou too....

CK
 
Ride your sled as is unless you can find a good track and extensions for cheap.....what you will need is a pack to wear with a good aluminum avy shovel in it so when you do get stuck you can dig yourself out....also..buy your buddies some beers..cause they are who are gonna be getting you out....pay attention to how they ride powder and copy what you see that works...also never stop going up hill..ever...always circle and stop in your own track or someone elses so the packed snow helps keep your shorty up and not trenching...same goes for going places especially uphill..poach their tracks as much as you can to keep your momentum up.....and never loose your temper..its tough to ride powder until you figure out how its done and how its done on the sled you are riding...they are all different.....that said for years we rode 121- 500 cc sleds into our cabins and all over the hills up here..it can be done.....shorter track means more momentum....longer track allows you to slow down more with out getting stuck......
 
I installed a 2.25x162 under an Arctic 600 last year. It pulls it just fine.
As far as yellowstone goes it will depend on snowfall during your week. If it dumps nonstop you are going to have problems. If snowfall is light you might be ok. You won't know till you get there.
 
i would go with the 144 extentions. i ride in maine with a 07 rmk 144 with 2" paddles, so i believe that your best bet would be the 144 extentions with a 1.75 camoplast backcountry
 
I would go 144, and maybe go up a tooth or two on gearing but if you hurting for cash 136's seem to be easy to find a good used one. In fact I'll be taking off a really nice 136x2" this fall, if your interested.
 
you can probably run a short track, but your not going to be able to stop in some places longer tracks do, and your gonna be on the gas pretty darn hard the whole time.(this coming from a dude who took a 500xcsp boondocking :D)
 
I used to ride in the hills with a 98 zr 600 121". If you were in deep spots you had to be on the throttle constantly and i had to work my sled way more than guys even with 136" tracks. Going to the 136" or 144" wouldnt be a bad idea. It will still be a great trail sled, and it will have better deep pow capabilities. You wont have any trouble turning a 136 or 144 either.
 
hey i am going out west for the first time in my life (yellowstone) in feb. and dont know what to do i have 06 fusion 600 with a 1 3/4 backcountry track ive regeared clutched air horn jetted nothing major. i want to take this out thier but am very worried about holding the group back. their will be about 2-3 other shorttrackers the rest are 144s i was thinking about a couple options

heres the deal the group im goin to go with are slighty older then me and keep telling me they dont ride very hard and the last 2 years they went theve only had about a 2 ft base and a foot of powder plus they may be longrtracked but they are all 1.25"


okay so say i choose option A,B or C what jets are you flatlanders changing to and what weights should i use. i have the epi maroon spring currently and have 400/410 mains dont remember right now. i think my gearing would be fine for out their dont remember that either but its low my top speed on the lake is 81-82 mph

and lastly yea yea i know my grammer sucks big time


have bolded the pertinent info...they dont ride, hard...you will be fine...Yellowstone is an area that caters to ALL levels of riders...and if they arent rding hard...your sled will be just fine...

just bring with you a few jet sizes (they are cheap) and have fun...

I am shocked your friends has had as little snow as you mention if they went out during the time frame you mention...or they really dont ride hard, and never left the parking lots and trails...

here is a pic of last year February time frame...

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and one from March...

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i am starting to lean toward the 144 as the only time i will be using the 144 is when i go west as soon as i get back i will change back to my 121 backcountry but goin with just a 121 sounds fun and challenging i cant make up my mind. (i wish i had 2 sleds)
 
Take your sled as is. If it's dumping for a few days rent a long track (BUY THE INSURANCE) and leave yours in the trailer. If it is hard pack ride yours.
 
go with 144. if you can put a 1.75 rip saw on that would be mint. the rip saw is a very easy track to spin. does amazing for a 1.75 in pow and is easier to pull high speeds on. ;)
 
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