I know a lot of folks have dealt with cranks and pistons on the Poo 800 motors for a while so I will use that to start and put on a little twist for ya. All opinions acceptable.
Long story, kinda shorter........
My buddy bought an '04 Escape from a guy in N. Utah this spring. Sled appeared to be in good shape for the year. Talk n talk, yadayada between him and my buddy about everything. Sellers selling point was that he had the crank go out and had a shop replace it with a new one with the 'tough-guy' bearing kit. He also replaced the pistons himself after that as 'part of an annual maintenance regimen he does every year...' Seller claims he rode it a week before my buddy took a look at it and everything ran 'great'.
So......... my buddy takes delivery in early April. Due to my schedule we don't do riding until late april down in Preston. Conditions were perfect, temps in the 20's, good snow, sunshine, let the sleds warm up, took off down the trail. Get up to a meadow after about 5 miles and start boondockin around. Didn't see him follow, so turned around and found him sitting in the flats. He says it's been running like crap and finally just started boggin out til it quit. I go to pull it over and NOTHING.. Seized up like a mofo. Open the hood, start pulling plugs, try to turn the clutch, all the normal 'WTF happened' things you look for (i guess). Get it to finally pull over, but it's definitely not smooth. Main thing we noticed and concluded had to be the culprit was the case oil line had not been clamped on tightly between the clutch and case and had come off and melted in the process. Obviously for some amount of time before or during that 5 miles that line had come off. The little clamp wasn't even hard to put back on with bare hands.
Decide to tow it back and head home. He finally got a shop to tear it down last week, and they told him most likely the pistons and crank would need replaced to the tune of around $1k. Does anyone think my buddy has a chance at going at this guy for anything or is he going to have to eat this repair?? (I can go both ways, but I think whoever put it back together did not check everything good enough). Here are some facts.
1. Buddy gave seller cash, but did not have a bill of sale filled out.
2. Seller doesn't even have the title to give to my buddy because seller before him didn't have the title in his name. (HUGE red flag IMO, but I wasn't there when all this went down.)
3. Buddy took 1 1/2 months to get it to a frikkin shop just to figure out what was wrong, and still hasn't called seller to talk about only getting 5 miles out of the deal.
4. No other agreements made except 'here's the sled....ok, here's the money' to support an argument about who should take care of the issue.
Anyone think there's a chance of my buddy getting anything out of this guy, or is he sunk in the mud for not covering his butt on the deal????? I have my doubts especially where it took him so long just to figure out what went wrong. Sorry about the novel, opinions are welcome and appreciated.
racer
Long story, kinda shorter........
My buddy bought an '04 Escape from a guy in N. Utah this spring. Sled appeared to be in good shape for the year. Talk n talk, yadayada between him and my buddy about everything. Sellers selling point was that he had the crank go out and had a shop replace it with a new one with the 'tough-guy' bearing kit. He also replaced the pistons himself after that as 'part of an annual maintenance regimen he does every year...' Seller claims he rode it a week before my buddy took a look at it and everything ran 'great'.
So......... my buddy takes delivery in early April. Due to my schedule we don't do riding until late april down in Preston. Conditions were perfect, temps in the 20's, good snow, sunshine, let the sleds warm up, took off down the trail. Get up to a meadow after about 5 miles and start boondockin around. Didn't see him follow, so turned around and found him sitting in the flats. He says it's been running like crap and finally just started boggin out til it quit. I go to pull it over and NOTHING.. Seized up like a mofo. Open the hood, start pulling plugs, try to turn the clutch, all the normal 'WTF happened' things you look for (i guess). Get it to finally pull over, but it's definitely not smooth. Main thing we noticed and concluded had to be the culprit was the case oil line had not been clamped on tightly between the clutch and case and had come off and melted in the process. Obviously for some amount of time before or during that 5 miles that line had come off. The little clamp wasn't even hard to put back on with bare hands.
Decide to tow it back and head home. He finally got a shop to tear it down last week, and they told him most likely the pistons and crank would need replaced to the tune of around $1k. Does anyone think my buddy has a chance at going at this guy for anything or is he going to have to eat this repair?? (I can go both ways, but I think whoever put it back together did not check everything good enough). Here are some facts.
1. Buddy gave seller cash, but did not have a bill of sale filled out.
2. Seller doesn't even have the title to give to my buddy because seller before him didn't have the title in his name. (HUGE red flag IMO, but I wasn't there when all this went down.)
3. Buddy took 1 1/2 months to get it to a frikkin shop just to figure out what was wrong, and still hasn't called seller to talk about only getting 5 miles out of the deal.
4. No other agreements made except 'here's the sled....ok, here's the money' to support an argument about who should take care of the issue.
Anyone think there's a chance of my buddy getting anything out of this guy, or is he sunk in the mud for not covering his butt on the deal????? I have my doubts especially where it took him so long just to figure out what went wrong. Sorry about the novel, opinions are welcome and appreciated.
racer
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