NEED HELP!

[triple650]

alright i have no idea whats wrong with this peice of poop. last year i drove my sled and the dash started to turn on and off, just reset. then it stopped working all together.

when the sled runs the headlghts just to say glow, i bought a new rellay still nothing. tonight i tested red/white wire to ground 13.9 v tested red to brown got 0 v. now i just tried jumping bluewhite to chassi ground and nothing. (mind you my jumper wire wasnt the best but stil) Also everything is disconnected from my handle bars even the low oil sensor.

my exhasut temperature sensor wire melted on my manifold, and three wires going to my voltage regulator were worn almost cut right off right before that blue/white connection with like 10 wires just before voltage regulator.

i have no idea what it can be ive tried every thing that i know of PLEASE HELP ME. now my sled wont even run.

 

[Z-Man]

Have you checked all the ground wires. Maybe even undo the ground wires and take a little sand paper to the metal where they are attached and then bolting them back on?

 

[triple650]

Have you checked all the ground wires. Maybe even undo the ground wires and take a little sand paper the the metal where they are attached and then bolting them back on?

i did that and put grease on it aswell.

 

[Z-Man]

i did that and put grease on it aswell.

Um, grease on the ground is not really a good thing. I hope you put it on after you tightened it.

It's a tedious job but if your stator is good then I would take an ohm meter and start testing wires. Start with the wire that you jumped to ground and see if it has a break in it somewhere. lights coming on but dim and tells me they are not getting full voltage. Have you hooked a meter to the power wire on the light while the light is connected and read the voltage? Also try running a jumper from the ground on the light to a good ground on the engine and see if the light gets brighter.

 

[triple650]

Um, grease on the ground is not really a good thing. I hope you put it on after you tightened it.

It's a tedious job but if your stator is good then I would take an ohm meter and start testing wires. Start with the wire that you jumped to ground and see if it has a break in it somewhere. lights coming on but dim and tells me they are not getting full voltage. Have you hooked a meter to the power wire on the light while the light is connected and read the voltage? Also try running a jumper from the ground on the light to a good ground on the engine and see if the light gets brighter.

ya but my sled wont even run anymore, it doesnt have a exhaust sensor but it should still run for a few seconds. i cant get it to start anymore i really dont know what to do with this thing. might just part it out and keep engine and chassi.

 

[Z-Man]

ya but my sled wont even run anymore, it doesnt have a exhaust sensor but it should still run for a few seconds. i cant get it to start anymore i really dont know what to do with this thing. might just part it out and keep engine and chassi.

Did it run before you messed with the grounds? If so it might have had a poor ground and putting grease in there may have made that even worse.

Sucks that you can't get it to run. Wish some of the guys on here that have had electrical problems could give you a straight answer on what the problem is.

 

[triple650]

is there more then one ground?

 

[benamen]

check the electrical section of the manual to do the test to see if u have a voltage regulator problem.

 

[Z-Man]

is there more then one ground?

The wiring diagram doesn't show multiple grounding points, just an engine ground a chassis ground. Re reading what you said you tested the red wire to ground and got 13.9 volts. You tested the red to the brown and got nothing. The brown is the ground, if you got nothing you have no ground where you tested it. Test the brown wire to ground with an Ohm meter.

Not sure what the blue/white wire is or why you would ground that. It is not in the wiring diagram.

Run a jumper from the brown wire to a good ground connection and see what happens. It doesn't hurt to install extra grounding on anything fuel injected, poor grounding causes erratic fuel injection operation.

 

[Z-Man]

Looks like the main chassis ground on my 05 sits right behind the driven clutch. There are a bunch of wires in that area that run along sharp edges that could easily have gotten damaged too. Check them closely and make sure none are shorted.

If you put grease on the ground before bolting it on. take it back off and clean of the grease completely then lightly sand the metal were it connects and the wire terminal then bolt it back on.

One more note, These wires are grounded to Aluminum, when aluminum oxidizes it is a poor conductor or electricity and causes a high resistance connection.

 

[Z-Man]

If you haven't already, read through these two threads with similar problems, might find a solution in there.

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124054

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117323

 

[guidoxpress]

damn dude, bad deal...

i am on the road driving right now, so when i get time ill check into it more and get back to your PM as well.

 

[garlic bear]

no start

check out your stator mine did the same the ring in the flywheel came out and wore trough the wires at the bottom of the stator. glued the ring back in the flywheel and replaced the stator

 

[f15ejedi]

Sounds like you have a bad connection somewhere or the stator is bad. Have a friend pull on it while you move wires around. See if you can narrow it down that way. Or pull the stator and look at it if you haven't already. You've got nothing to loose by looking at it. Be patient and check one thing at a time. Don't get it so torn apart you can't test things properly. Put your handlebars back together and then start troubleshooting. Then you can un-plug the hood and try to start it and go from there. My Summit wouldn't start last season and I just checked one thing at a time until I narrowed it down to the ignition unit. Took a while but I figured it out eventually. Just have to be patient and walk away when you get frustrated with it.

 

[triple650]

check out your stator mine did the same the ring in the flywheel came out and wore trough the wires at the bottom of the stator. glued the ring back in the flywheel and replaced the stator

ya but when i checked the voltage at the relay, white/red wire to brown wire, i had 13.9 volts. so doesnt that mean my stator is fine? i dont have voltage from red wire to brown and i think im supposed to. i read on a thread to do that.

dont i have to pull the motor to take stator off? wheni get my new exhaust sensor ill plug it in and see what happens, ever since it melted my sled hasnt run.

 

[Z-Man]

Not sure if it would help anything or not but did you plug the wires to your bars back in? There is a safety kill switch on the throttle and I am not sure what affect having that unplugged might have.

 

[f15ejedi]

Not sure if it would help anything or not but did you plug the wires to your bars back in? There is a safety kill switch on the throttle and I am not sure what affect having that unplugged might have.

That was why I told him to put his bars back together. I don't think it will run with that disconnected.

 

[triple650]

That was why I told him to put his bars back together. I don't think it will run with that disconnected.

no it was running, i was doing the tests, but i dont have an exhaust sensor plugged in. so that might be why, illl see wednesday im getting a new one and ill try some things. couldnt work on it today or yesterday hurt my back and cant barely move hurts to walk.

 

[triple650]

i love how i cant seem to get a straight answer, when i tested the relay i got from white/red to brown 13.9 v from red to brown 0v IS THIS OK?

im so fed up with this peice of **** machine, it cant be my stator since the sled runs, im pretty sure because it didnt have the exhaust sensor hooked up thats why it died.

but does not solve my ELECTRICAL problem, IF and WHEN i solve this problem im selling this thing. be lucky if i can get 3000$ for it.

 

[Z-Man]

i love how i cant seem to get a straight answer, when i tested the relay i got from white/red to brown 13.9 v from red to brown 0v IS THIS OK?

im so fed up with this peice of **** machine, it cant be my stator since the sled runs, im pretty sure because it didnt have the exhaust sensor hooked up thats why it died.

but does not solve my ELECTRICAL problem, IF and WHEN i solve this problem im selling this thing. be lucky if i can get 3000$ for it.

red to brown should show voltage, unless you are testing the wrong side of a brown connector that does not go to ground. That is why I suggested adding a jumper to ground to make sure you did not have grounding problems. If red to the tunnel shows 13.9 volts and red to brown shows 0V, You don't have a good ground connection.

Brown is ground. Take an ohm meter and put one lead on brown wire and one on the tunnel or someplace you can get a good ground. should show zero ohms and not an open circuit. If it shows and open circuit you have a bad ground connection or a broken wire.