Went riding today up taylors fork and it was awesome. got it in the shop tonight and my primary(with pannel off) is horrably loud. at idling speed it makes a terrable rattle. want to go tomorrow any thoughts would be awesome. thanks
Need Help with primay!
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FNG
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Not really very knowledgeable about clutches but...
1) Was it working properly on the ride today? as you didn't mention noticing any performance loss, just noise when you got it home.
2) pull the plugs, rotate the primary clutch by hand and listen for three little click, click, click(s). This will tell you that the arms at least are moving freely.
3) Go to Revzone.com or search for Dynamo Joe, he has a couple of short online videos that show how to pull the clutches and pull them apart so you can see if everything at least looks right in there.
Hope that helps!
1) Was it working properly on the ride today? as you didn't mention noticing any performance loss, just noise when you got it home.
2) pull the plugs, rotate the primary clutch by hand and listen for three little click, click, click(s). This will tell you that the arms at least are moving freely.
3) Go to Revzone.com or search for Dynamo Joe, he has a couple of short online videos that show how to pull the clutches and pull them apart so you can see if everything at least looks right in there.
Hope that helps!
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SledsWest
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here are dynamo joe's vids:
http://www.sledswestforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=131
Make sure your primary is aligned correctly (didn't you just have a guy check/service your clutches last week?)
http://www.sledswestforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=131
Make sure your primary is aligned correctly (didn't you just have a guy check/service your clutches last week?)
He didnt check it. Just aligned it. and it seemed to run pretty good. kinda seemed like it could produce a little more power
rattle
It sound like you may have a loose plate on your governor cup.Its the outer plate on the governor cup.I have seen these come lose on the 04 800s .You will have to replace the governor cup.If its not that give your clutch a spin by hand and see if you feel any rattle from the crank.
It sound like you may have a loose plate on your governor cup.Its the outer plate on the governor cup.I have seen these come lose on the 04 800s .You will have to replace the governor cup.If its not that give your clutch a spin by hand and see if you feel any rattle from the crank.
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gman086
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Rattling noise at idle is almost always a sign of worn primary slider shoes (or buttons as some people are calling them in this thread). Your clutch probably needs a lot more than that - check everything, especially bushing wear and replace them if beyond the wear limits.
Have FUN!
G MAN
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grab the outside black vibration dampner and see if the movable sheave moves and the dampner stays still
I just had to replace mine on a 04 800 one of the dampner screws actually was gone
did it start to clank or rev high at the end of the day especially after reverse
was used
if not then a few bucks worth of buttons and your good to go
good luck
I just had to replace mine on a 04 800 one of the dampner screws actually was gone
did it start to clank or rev high at the end of the day especially after reverse
was used
if not then a few bucks worth of buttons and your good to go
good luck
second slider shoes, just replaced mine
i have some more problems. just went riding today and it started pulling the cords out of my belt on the side pannel side of the belt. and still rattles horrablly and idle. its come out of it when you rev er up. and also i marked my slide sheave with a marker and my belts onlly going like 3/4 way up! and by the way. it has a wobble at idle. when you rev it up, the wobble and sound goes away. need some help. plan on goin to cooke this weekend
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FNG
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The help has been stated already 
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Go pull your clutches before you really bugger something up, measure your crank run out so you know if you have a bad crank, and replace the parts that have been mentioned already, ie, buttons in the primary, and sliders in the secondary. The rattle is probably going away when you rev it because the clutches are clamping the belt and that is holding everything together under tension.
Do the work, all of this will take a couple of hours and will cost much less than one new belt! While you are in there you may as well replace your clutch springs too because if your springs are old and toasted you clutches aren't going to work fer s**t, (just go with stock unless you know you have some custom set up that you like already). Some dealers will have buttons and sliders in stock (if you are lucky), if yours doesn't you may still be able to have one of the aftermarket suppliers get them to you by next weekend but a dealer is going to take 10 days.
If you don't know how to do the work download a manual for less than $10.. and watch the Dynamo Joe videos a few times, it's easy, just go slow and be careful about aligning the parts on assembly!
Stop riding your sled until you have this figured out or it's gonna cost you a belt a day and very possibly more damage to your sled!
Oh, you don't really need the slick button retaining tools shown on DJ's video as all they do is keep the buttons compressed to make it easier to reassemble things, you can do it with your fingers it's just a bit of a pain. You can also make the compressor for the primary clutch (and secondary for that matter) out of some 5/8 all-thread and some wing nuts and washers, or a drill press works if you happen to have one... use your imagination.
! Go pull your clutches before you really bugger something up, measure your crank run out so you know if you have a bad crank, and replace the parts that have been mentioned already, ie, buttons in the primary, and sliders in the secondary. The rattle is probably going away when you rev it because the clutches are clamping the belt and that is holding everything together under tension.
Do the work, all of this will take a couple of hours and will cost much less than one new belt! While you are in there you may as well replace your clutch springs too because if your springs are old and toasted you clutches aren't going to work fer s**t, (just go with stock unless you know you have some custom set up that you like already). Some dealers will have buttons and sliders in stock (if you are lucky), if yours doesn't you may still be able to have one of the aftermarket suppliers get them to you by next weekend but a dealer is going to take 10 days.
If you don't know how to do the work download a manual for less than $10.. and watch the Dynamo Joe videos a few times, it's easy, just go slow and be careful about aligning the parts on assembly!
Stop riding your sled until you have this figured out or it's gonna cost you a belt a day and very possibly more damage to your sled!
Oh, you don't really need the slick button retaining tools shown on DJ's video as all they do is keep the buttons compressed to make it easier to reassemble things, you can do it with your fingers it's just a bit of a pain. You can also make the compressor for the primary clutch (and secondary for that matter) out of some 5/8 all-thread and some wing nuts and washers, or a drill press works if you happen to have one... use your imagination.
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If the entire clutch is wobbleing then I would say you have a crank issue to worry about.
Oh if you havent already you should get your clutch balanced, my brand new clutch was 8 grams out on one side and my buddy's 09 clutch was 19 grams out of spec. This help me have a consistant clutch setup since and I hold 8200 all day with cool clutch temps.
Oh if you havent already you should get your clutch balanced, my brand new clutch was 8 grams out on one side and my buddy's 09 clutch was 19 grams out of spec. This help me have a consistant clutch setup since and I hold 8200 all day with cool clutch temps.
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ok i may have over looked the woble. when its idling( the only time it apears to have a woble) i can run my finger on the top and just feel a little vibration. so i dont think its bad. i think my buttons might be wore out. the only thing i could think of at this time. oh and what is the govonor cup? and also, how would wore out shoes cause my clutch to want to blow belts?
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