muh head hurts!

[OrangeKowJumper]

So. . .acquired another project sled-17 Axys RMK 155- . ....like I need more to do!. .and it needs rails, fta, and front track shock. .pretty easy peasy. ..til i start reading how particular rails go with a particular track and there's 2.6's, 2.7's, 3.0's, and whatever else ya can throw in the mix . ..and gotta work with which drivers. .and so on . ..what would be awesome is if someone who knows which from what could list what rail/track/driver combos go together?. .and I realize that's probably a subjective list but mainly sleds in stock form so I can figure out what I need and also what else may work if I want to change from the 2.6 to the 3.0. .or something else other than stock . .anyone??. . or if ya dont wanna get in to posting all that but know what your talking about and wanted to converse thru pm. . that'd be great! .. . thanks, Fellas . .
Johnny

 

[IceAge Performance]

Here is a quick rundown of things. Feel free to call us and anyone here can get you sorted out and make more sense of it.

Stock axys configuration options

All sleds are driven by 2 introvert drivers and one center extrovert in the punched windows of the track. The drivers are all inboard of the rails so the rails actually run up beside the drivers. Before we dive into the tracks and rail lengths, note that most OEM lengths are slightly rounded so this is a list of exact lengths.

2.6" Paddle sleds come with the belt drive. Driveshaft is a large aluminum hex shaft ~3" diam. Tracks are 2.86 pitch.
3" Paddle sleds come with chaincase. Driveshaft is a ~2.5" diam steel shaft Tracks are 3" pitch

The tunnel clearance on both the 2.6 and 3" sleds is the same, the driveshaft is not moved. Just the drive system (belt vs chain), shaft style and track pitch. Driver size/pitch and style is where it can be confusing.

Driver and track combo's is where a little more confusion comes from due to the varying style. First off track and driver pitch must match. Pitch being the spacing between lugs. 2.86 and 3" are the only factory options(not to be confused with lug height) 3.5" pitch tracks do exist but are much less common. Drive style is also important. There is the standard polaris style with the 2 introvert drivers and center extrovert. This only works with tracks with center punching. Some aftermarket tracks have this option available but not all. Because the single extrovert tip is driving on non clipped center ports in the track it can't handle as much HP without being run SUPER tight or it will slip. Avid products makes an aftermarket center drive driver that is tougher and available in different pitches for center drive track configurations. The alternative is Avid or Wahl brand drivers which are "traditional style or "cat" style drivers. These have introvert and extrovert combination drivers which drive on the clips that the rails ride on. Driving on the rail clips with the extrovert portion allows the track to be run looser and still not slip. Since the drivers are placed in front of the rails the stock rail configuration is too long and must be cut back and a set of anti stab wheels must be run in in place of the tips. This is more common on turbo'd sleds where handling more power is a challange.

Rail lengths from the factory are the same for 2.6 and 3" sleds. Since the 163 3" sled is actually a true 162" track and the 163 2.6 is a 163.02 Polaris uses different rails for each model. All IceAge rails are built as either 155 or 163, we have built our rails right in the middle with a slight increase in adjustment range and can accommodate all 155/156 tracks and 162/163's on each length of rail.

And obviously there are a slew of tracks OEM and aftermarket which people swap on.

Like I said, if you need some coaching up, let us know and we can get you squared away!

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

So. . .acquired another project sled-17 Axys RMK 155- . ....like I need more to do!. .and it needs rails, fta, and front track shock. .pretty easy peasy. ..til i start reading how particular rails go with a particular track and there's 2.6's, 2.7's, 3.0's, and whatever else ya can throw in the mix . ..and gotta work with which drivers. .and so on . ..what would be awesome is if someone who knows which from what could list what rail/track/driver combos go together?. .and I realize that's probably a subjective list but mainly sleds in stock form so I can figure out what I need and also what else may work if I want to change from the 2.6 to the 3.0. .or something else other than stock . .anyone??. . or if ya dont wanna get in to posting all that but know what your talking about and wanted to converse thru pm. . that'd be great! .. . thanks, Fellas . .
Johnny

Step away from the internet.

Buy ice age rails and tell them which track you want to run.

Match the track with drivers.

Done?

 

[richracer1]

Just an FYI, here's a couple of pics of the two drive shafts that come on either the belt drive and chaincase equipped sleds. I removed the stock drivers in favor of the "Cat" style Avid drivers that were previously mentioned.


Drive shaft for QD equipped sleds with 8T 2.86 pitch Avid drivers





Drive shaft for chaincase equipped sleds with 7T 3.0 pitch Avid drivers





FWIW, there is about 4 ounce difference in weight between these two drive shafts of mine.

 

[OrangeKowJumper]

Thanks very much for the responses guys. . .I'm gonna be looking for stuff at Haydays so need to have it all squared away by then. . .I appreciate the assistance and will probably be giving you guys at Iceage a call . .

 

[05rmksteve]

Thanks very much for the responses guys. . .I'm gonna be looking for stuff at Haydays so need to have it all squared away by then. . .I appreciate the assistance and will probably be giving you guys at Iceage a call . .

Ice age will be at haydays. [emoji16]
If you dont find a set off rails at haydays I might have a set off black axys 155 2.86 rails for sale soon. Thinking about stretching mine out to a 163.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

 

[OrangeKowJumper]

So another question after looking at the avid website… what's the difference between the 7 and 8 Point lugs?… is there a benefit or vantage to one versus the other since you can order in either pitch?

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

On an Axys you can only fit 7T drivers with most mountain paddle tracks. Running the larger 8 tooth drivers would limit you to like 2.4" of paddle clearance or less in the tunnel. 7T gives clearance for up to 3" paddles.

 

[polarisperformance]

Here is a quick rundown of things. Feel free to call us and anyone here can get you sorted out and make more sense of it.

Stock axys configuration options

All sleds are driven by 2 introvert drivers and one center extrovert in the punched windows of the track. The drivers are all inboard of the rails so the rails actually run up beside the drivers. Before we dive into the tracks and rail lengths, note that most OEM lengths are slightly rounded so this is a list of exact lengths.

2.6" Paddle sleds come with the belt drive. Driveshaft is a large aluminum hex shaft ~3" diam. Tracks are 2.86 pitch.
3" Paddle sleds come with chaincase. Driveshaft is a ~2.5" diam steel shaft Tracks are 3" pitch

The tunnel clearance on both the 2.6 and 3" sleds is the same, the driveshaft is not moved. Just the drive system (belt vs chain), shaft style and track pitch. Driver size/pitch and style is where it can be confusing.

Driver and track combo's is where a little more confusion comes from due to the varying style. First off track and driver pitch must match. Pitch being the spacing between lugs. 2.86 and 3" are the only factory options(not to be confused with lug height) 3.5" pitch tracks do exist but are much less common. Drive style is also important. There is the standard polaris style with the 2 introvert drivers and center extrovert. This only works with tracks with center punching. Some aftermarket tracks have this option available but not all. Because the single extrovert tip is driving on non clipped center ports in the track it can't handle as much HP without being run SUPER tight or it will slip. Avid products makes an aftermarket center drive driver that is tougher and available in different pitches for center drive track configurations. The alternative is Avid or Wahl brand drivers which are "traditional style or "cat" style drivers. These have introvert and extrovert combination drivers which drive on the clips that the rails ride on. Driving on the rail clips with the extrovert portion allows the track to be run looser and still not slip. Since the drivers are placed in front of the rails the stock rail configuration is too long and must be cut back and a set of anti stab wheels must be run in in place of the tips. This is more common on turbo'd sleds where handling more power is a challange.

Rail lengths from the factory are the same for 2.6 and 3" sleds. Since the 163 3" sled is actually a true 162" track and the 163 2.6 is a 163.02 Polaris uses different rails for each model. All IceAge rails are built as either 155 or 163, we have built our rails right in the middle with a slight increase in adjustment range and can accommodate all 155/156 tracks and 162/163's on each length of rail.

And obviously there are a slew of tracks OEM and aftermarket which people swap on.

Like I said, if you need some coaching up, let us know and we can get you squared away!

I have a question about your rail for the 155. I can't run 8 tooth 2.86 pitch driver on my sks 155 with FTS in lower position (Track is too tight) Can I install your rmk assault rail on my sled and have enough adjustement for this setup ?
thanks