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mountain riding advice & tips

ndmeathead

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I'm looking for advice on becoming a better rider: jumping, technical, boondocking, backflips, lol, basically advice on anything that doesn't apply to the trail. I've been mountain riding for a few years on rentals but got the fever pretty bad this year and am planning to have alot more time & money invested next season. I completly realize experience translates to ability as with anything, just a little advice on technique's from my peers is what I'm after. Instructions to I can review to get the blood flowing on the drive up:)
My 1st post on SnoWest so lets make it a good one! Thanks
 
the throttle is always your friend. you got to get your butt off the seat and use your body weight and leverage to throw the sled aorund. got risers on your bars?
 
Learn your limits and push them every ride. Learn to counter steer, side hill, leave the sled mostly stock, and ride with people who are better than you!
 
You just always step up your game and you will get better and better. A motto to live by and always remember is RIDE IT LIKE YA STOLE IT. Dont forget that.
 
easy thing to remember when u get used to it.... turn right pull left, turn left pull right.. should get you where you want to go...
 
Been on 700 RMK 155 all year compliments of Bear Lodge. I wouldn't say I'm beginner anymore more at a mid range riding level. Got the right side sidehill down, can pump up hill, point and shoot. I do have hell with anything involving the left side other then falling off it:). Jumping I always tend to land back of track first instead of smooth. My climbing could use a little work, I think my testicles get smaller in some situations. Left side advice? Stance on Sled: as far up as possible or weight shifted back for best results in which situations? Thanks padres:beer; Any good sites or links on actual riding technique would be useful to me to. Google it and its sfety, safety, safety which I necassary but not what I'm after
 
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That sled left should be pretty easy, lean in to the hill , put all your weight on your left foot, steer to the right and give some go juice. Sled will lay right over for you.
To help you to keep from landing on the back of your track, You need to get more speed on the approach and keep a constant throttle as you take off. You prob hav a short approach so you have it pinned when you take off which makes your front end wheelie as you go off.
 
Learn your limits and push them every ride. Learn to counter steer, side hill, leave the sled mostly stock, and ride with people who are better than you!

Nuff said......100% correct. when in doubt pin it out
 
Often most people find the left side easier to side hill with? I find my self preferring that side even though I am very capable of both. If you are having problems landing while wheeling try getting more speed on your approach and letting out while you hit the lip. Not all the way, but enough to transfer your weight forward. Also, you can preload your suspension which really helps in flat landing.


To preload, right before you hit the jump, stand up on your Tipp toes and slam your weight down right before you hit the jump. This will compress the suspension more so that when you reach the lip, the rear of the track will act as a spring almost and propel you flatter and higher. If you are going to land popping a wheelie, a very light quick tap of the break will correct this and if you are doing a nose dive just pin and pull the slack out of your arms and let them snap on the bars. Once you get used to it, it becomes second nature and you will find yourself doing this on the trails.

When I was teaching my girlfriend to ride in powder she revered to the sled like a really heavy 4 wheeler that wouldn’t turn. I thought about it and explained that a snowmobile is much more like a extremely heavy dirt bike that gets lighter as you use the throttle. While in the powder you should be standing most of the time and you will have to gain the confidence to lay the sled over on a downhill side hill, turn away from the hill, and know that you are going to make it.

I really recommend you spend most of your time in the meadows early in the day. GO practice spinning tight circles in the powder on both the right and left sides. Make mountains out of mole hills, always choose the hardest (but safe) climb and get good at getting unstuck! Its a lot easier to get unstuck on a big hill then it is on the flats so keep that in mind.

Hmmm what else? Keep your elbows higher than your hands at all times while riding aggressively, pack a tool kit and know how to work on the sled. You need to be able to change plugs, belt, and bring supplies just incase you get in a bad wreck.
 

I used the tips off this site as well as the previous link for akmining 'power turning 101' to find out what and why then took it to the hill to practice. Made a huge difference. I found the most useful things to learn to do was counter-steering and throttle control. Once you get your head around the whole countersteering thing it helps you in so many ways. Actual weight shift and not just sticking your butt out was a good thing to learn too!
I don't know how many times I was told to 'pin it'...'the throttle is your friend'...and once you know how to use it, it really is your friend!!!
I'm fortunate to have good riding buddies to learn from - that push my limits every time we go out! 'Can't' is not permitted.
 
as for jumping, tap your brake in the air and it will bring your back end up, give er a bit of throttle before you land and it will bring the front up a bit. also you get a smoother landing with the track turning.
 
When in doubt throttle out:D Oh ya...and Tree's have snowmobile magnets in them:mad:
Huh, I always thought the snowmobile had a tree magnet in it. Makes more sense that they're in the trees, I can't seem to get my sled to avoid them.

Learn your limits and push them every ride. Learn to counter steer, side hill, leave the sled mostly stock, and ride with people who are better than you!
Yup.

Ride with people who are better than you, that will push you to try things you wouldn't do otherwise.

And practice practice practice practice.
 
First- spend the money and time to make your sled comfortable to ride standing, very important to be comfortable and confident. find the "sweet spot" on the sled - that is the point for me that when your bouncing the sled it rocks for and aft, and there is a natural pivot point, put your feet slightly behind it and get your bars just in front of it. this will allow the sled to "dance" under you, while you move very little.

second get to know your machine - play in a meadow and throw it around under power. Even experienced riders will borrow a friends ride to try it out and fall on their side and "lose it" everyone laughs - no big deal.

third/4th - steer with your feet and throttle not your skis, only use your skis to put corrections into a turn. Suprizingly try turning your skis the opposite direction that you want to turn (countersteer). There is a real reason this works it has to do with fall lines and thrust vectors of your sled, Just kindof think as the back half of your skis as rudders on a boat,

most manuevers on a sled require timing more than effort (although there is still penty of effort going on), the throttle is your friend in most situations, get the track to spin under the sled it creats a stabilizing trench under the sled and the track removing the snow from under itself will allow small inputs with your feet or on the bars to change your direction and or level the sled.

any time you want to try a manuever (sidhilling, tight turning like a jet ski, S turns etc-- -- -- START VERY SLOWLY- meaning creep up to the point you want to start, then hit the throttle (now here is the tricky part, you have to time your input to the sled just as the track starts spinning under your feet, if you stomp or pull too quickly nothing really happens, do it too late and you rocket off in the direction you were pointed.

AGAIN start SLOW SLOW SLOW. 1-2 mph or so, get ready, pin it, wait till you feel the sled drop as it starts to trench or you feel the TRACK SPIN (not the engine reving) stomp your feet, pull your bars.

You will fall off and you will go too fast, then let off and get high sided, so do it in a safe place- If your going faster than 10-15 mph, stop you blew it try again, leave the fast sidehilling for when you have experience (high siding at 30-40 sucks) remember SLOW SLOW SLOW is the key. watch how slow the other riders are going when they do it.

if someone laughs just aske them for help either they will shut up for fear of doing the same and looking like an a$$, or help you out with their tips.

remember go slow then get that track spinning, when it gets stabilized then work the throttle on/off to keep where you want to go and and the speed you want to go.



good luck, if your in Utah look me up!

spomey
 
don't know if it's mentioned, but I like to look where I want to end up...not right in front of the machine because that usually means I end up in the wrong spot...
 
Its my first year sledding aswell, By watching a ridiculous amounts of sled movies, Riding with friends who are way better and acually getting out and riding I have improved greatly. Learning to pin it helped alot. The only way you going to learn it to get out and ride. Learn what the sled can do and how it responds to body imput. And try stuff, If you see a side hill or you want to crave just try it, Its only parts they make more...
 
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