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Making the choice?

The Timbersled Raw is a smoking deal for a known well performing kit that you probably buy for a little over $3000 after negotiating. It is a great low cost price point. I just wish they offered it in an LT!!!!
 
I bought a raw last year, I had never ridden a snowbike and went with the cheepo just to give it a try. I have it hooked to a CR500 and the whole set up has been great!!! The timbersled part of the deal has not had one problem, I carry an extra plastic sproket because I have heard that was a weak link and have not had to use it. I check my chains and have had no issues and have had to do basically no maintenance. I ride with guys on 2017 Yeti 129 kits on 2016 KTM450's who weigh at least 100lbs less than I do. When it is really deep they are able to turn up the hill a little steeper than I am but they keep calling me back to ride so I think I must be OK. They are both really good dirtbike riders and pretty talented on the snobikes as well. We have got into stuff I would have never even imagined. I would get what you can afford and what you think is going to fit your riding style the best. All I can say is the Raw kit is not a POS, I weigh 270lbs and have hucked this thing pretty good and been holding it wide open hooked to a CR500 and I have not had one problem.

Hope I didn't just jinx myself.
 
I bought a raw last year, I had never ridden a snowbike and went with the cheepo just to give it a try. I have it hooked to a CR500 and the whole set up has been great!!! The timbersled part of the deal has not had one problem, I carry an extra plastic sproket because I have heard that was a weak link and have not had to use it. I check my chains and have had no issues and have had to do basically no maintenance. I ride with guys on 2017 Yeti 129 kits on 2016 KTM450's who weigh at least 100lbs less than I do. When it is really deep they are able to turn up the hill a little steeper than I am but they keep calling me back to ride so I think I must be OK. They are both really good dirtbike riders and pretty talented on the snobikes as well. We have got into stuff I would have never even imagined. I would get what you can afford and what you think is going to fit your riding style the best. All I can say is the Raw kit is not a POS, I weigh 270lbs and have hucked this thing pretty good and been holding it wide open hooked to a CR500 and I have not had one problem.

Hope I didn't just jinx myself.

Gotta be careful what you say. Had a buddy tell me how he was suprised he had not wrecked his sled yet this year. Fired it up, hit the hill only to wreck the sled 2 minutes later. :face-icon-small-hap

The RAW certainly is a great option with the lower MSRP and upgraded Ski and and front mount. However the Camso Kit is getting my attention. I have a few weeks yet to decide! Either way it should be a blast hooked to the back of my Husky 501!
 
Greg,
The timbersled dealer told me The raw is basically a 2014 kit, same shocks and set up. The new ARO looks pretty interesting, but more money. It will be interesting to see if Camso will reduce some weight for 2018.

Actually the RAW kit and 2016 kits have considerably more compression dampening and more rebound dampening than the 2013 kit which was the first year for that type of Fox shock.

If you update the 13 `14 15 valving in the shocks you can easily be right at 017 ride through the woops. A lot cheaper than a new kit.
 
Actually the RAW kit and 2016 kits have considerably more compression dampening and more rebound dampening than the 2013 kit which was the first year for that type of Fox shock.

If you update the 13 `14 15 valving in the shocks you can easily be right at 017 ride through the woops. A lot cheaper than a new kit.

I need to get after doing that shock re-valving on my 13 kit. The triple rate springs help quite a bit but the shocks could use some love. I remember you put a post up about how to do the re-valve a while back. I don't see any point selling my 13 LT as I've done a bunch of upgrades on it. I'm just going to hang on to it and set up a second completely new bike and kit that way I will have a back up bike.

M5
 
Greg,
The timbersled dealer told me The raw is basically a 2014 kit, same shocks and set up. The new ARO looks pretty interesting, but more money. It will be interesting to see if Camso will reduce some weight for 2018.

You need a new dealer asap. The raw has almost nothing in common with a 2014 kit. Only the main frame and spindle are the same.
 
You need a new dealer asap. The raw has almost nothing in common with a 2014 kit. Only the main frame and spindle are the same.

Why the heck would you blame it on the dealer? All the Anti-Dealer, Blame the dealer BS I read on this and other forums blows my mind!
 
His dealer said the 2014 kit is the same as a raw, that's just not true.

Well as I go back and read the post I guess I went off half cocked. LOL. Just read so much BS blaming dealers I guess I should have re-read his post. He is to a point correct. Same frame means similar geometry and same ski mount so the backbone of the system is the same. Always improvements like shock calibration, ski design, track and so on.
You have my apology!
 
I was not very clear, but what the dealer was trying to get across was if you have a 2014 kit, you would be better off updating it, rather than buying a RAW. He said "basically the same", that does not mean exactly the same!
 
I just bolted a camso up to my beta 300rr. I've been running the 2014 TS ST for 3 seasons and have it dialed pretty well, and it does good. Never been too happy with it on the trail, but I did some suspension work this year and it was a lot better.

I went on a test ride with the Camso yesterday and am still running the TS ski. First thing I noticed right off was how much less it kicked through the whooped out snowmobile trail I had to ride to get to any snow. I also noticed the single rail right off, leans and feels nice cruising around on. The other really noticeable thing was the rolling resistance, or lack of, it rolls really easy and I could coast down hills. In the snow it hooked up better, so I couldn't spin it as easily as the ST, but that's probably a good thing as I was probably moving faster.

The only sort of negative I felt was it wasn't as quick turning in the trees, but this is probably due more to it's length than anything else. I guess the track has the footprint of a TS LT, which probably has more to do with the slower turning...

It's really hard to make comparisons and the snow is so much different than just a couple days ago with the TS ST. But those are my observations. I really thought the suspension was going to suck just looking at the Camso setup, but it felt better than expected.

If anyone with a Camso sees this, can you post some pics of how the track hits the ground when it's sitting flat on the ski? I am using a Husky fit kit, and I think the strut rod is too long... the front of the track is in the air when it's sitting on the ground, I think this equates to too much ski pressure, which I felt when riding it. It wasn't terrible, but I don't think it's right.
 
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Actually the RAW kit and 2016 kits have considerably more compression dampening and more rebound dampening than the 2013 kit which was the first year for that type of Fox shock.

If you update the 13 `14 15 valving in the shocks you can easily be right at 017 ride through the woops. A lot cheaper than a new kit.

Great, I am going to buy another kit but want to make this one as good as I can. I have a 13 ST so who do I send shock to or what can I tell my local bike shock guy to bring these shocks up to par?
 
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