M7 vs M8 vs M1000

[F_ast]

keep in mind, you cant even add a Y pipe to a 1000 without adding a fuel controller.

The new 800 can run a full system exhaust without addition of any fuel or any tweeking (some say above 3000 feet).

However, I felt a huge power/ torque difference going from my 700 to my 800. They do make similar peak power, but the 700 is peeky, where the 800 have a huge torque curve.

but you can also drop some serious weight out of the 1000 on the exhaust alone. Somewhere close to 15lbs just putting on a can. you can pack enough clothes for a 1 month vacation with the size of the suitcase on the 1000

 

[Joa]

Man, I never thought there would be so many different opinions

Yaa, the RX-1 is a good old gal. Porky, but always available....so to speak.

I'm seeing 06 M7s in the $3500 range so maybe this is the way to go for this year and then next season I could go bigger and let my wife ride the 7.

One thing about it, with the economy I don't think sled prices are going to be going up anytime soon. Don't think I'll sell my Ton just yet, it will be there for a backup ride.

 

[always stuck]

had an 06 m7. went to an 08 m8. I am really happy with the change, the torque is the biggest difference. I would venture to guess you would be very happy with any of the three.

 

[johndeerejunky]

I went from a 05 m7 with a few mods rkt head and clutching to 09 m1000 with some mods and both sleds fell the same to throw around but having 200+ horse helps

 

[iluv2fly]

Do some port work to the M8's along with the slp pipe and the M7's will not run with the M8. My 09 M8 with the slp performance package would kill my M7 that had slp porting and an RKT head. The torque and electronic reverse on the M8 are way better than the M7 but I am also 210lbs.

 

[m7john]

I would go with a clean m-7 anyday. Clutch kit and a head and you will be right beside a stock m-8 all day! To me my m-7 handles better and is way funner to ride. M-7 hands down.

x2

 

[SLEDIOT]

keep in mind, you cant even add a Y pipe to a 1000 without adding a fuel controller. The new 800 can run a full system exhaust without addition of any fuel or any tweeking (some say above 3000 feet).

However, I felt a huge power/ torque difference going from my 700 to my 800. They do make similar peak power, but the 700 is peeky, where the 800 have a huge torque curve.

but you can also drop some serious weight out of the 1000 on the exhaust alone. Somewhere close to 15lbs just putting on a can. you can pack enough clothes for a 1 month vacation with the size of the suitcase on the 1000

This part of th statement is a little under educated. I am running the full D&D setup on my 09 m1000. I have a pure logic controller plummed into my ecu but have it completely zeroed out. It si NOT in use. You can get the 09 ecu reflash on all of the 07 and 08 ecu's. This fuel map is second to none and really crispens up the 1000. I have a buddy with the 07 m1000 and he had this reflash and his sled is a serious contender!! Like he said lots of weight can still be removed and I mentioned also. I peronally have shown (with very little ridding skill) that the a setup m1000 can not be remotely touched by an m8. Please I am not taking anything away from the m8. its just not a well setup M1. My m1 comes in at 440lbs I think thats pretty good. And my guess is somewhere between 180 and 190 hp. No dyno just a guess.

 

[F_ast]

This part of th statement is a little under educated. I am running the full D&D setup on my 09 m1000. I have a pure logic controller plummed into my ecu but have it completely zeroed out. It si NOT in use. You can get the 09 ecu reflash on all of the 07 and 08 ecu's. This fuel map is second to none and really crispens up the 1000. I have a buddy with the 07 m1000 and he had this reflash and his sled is a serious contender!! Like he said lots of weight can still be removed and I mentioned also. I peronally have shown (with very little ridding skill) that the a setup m1000 can not be remotely touched by an m8. Please I am not taking anything away from the m8. its just not a well setup M1. My m1 comes in at 440lbs I think thats pretty good. And my guess is somewhere between 180 and 190 hp. No dyno just a guess.

I would not say uneducated, but more along the lines of aftermarket recommendation. Not to say you have to or even should stick to someone elses logic either. You are right about the 09 program and reflashing to more current ecu programs. But as a blanket statement, i thought mine was accurate. Also elevation can make or break either of our statements. I am just above and below 1000ft, so that makes a difference too. No doubt, that if you ride the safe side of the edge you have a contending sled, but a sled running the not so safe side of the edge runs the risk of getting a tow home and a fresh top end.

In terms of performance and power, there is no replacement for displacement. But most of the boondockers of the world would shed pounds before looking for the high mark sled... starting close to 30lbs less, the 7 and 8's are my go to choice.

 

[vdog0531]

I would not say uneducated, but more along the lines of aftermarket recommendation. Not to say you have to or even should stick to someone elses logic either. You are right about the 09 program and reflashing to more current ecu programs. But as a blanket statement, i thought mine was accurate. Also elevation can make or break either of our statements. I am just above and below 1000ft, so that makes a difference too. No doubt, that if you ride the safe side of the edge you have a contending sled, but a sled running the not so safe side of the edge runs the risk of getting a tow home and a fresh top end.

In terms of performance and power, there is no replacement for displacement. But most of the boondockers of the world would shed pounds before looking for the high mark sled... starting close to 30lbs less, the 7 and 8's are my go to choice.

i am by no means a highmarker (i weigh 240 pounds so its never gonna happen when the people i ride with are 180) but NOBODY in my group would give up the horsepower of the 1000 compared to the weight savings on m8. a can, boss seat and an intake and you saved the weight and have a MUCH better engine

 

[Frostbite]

First of all, I would absolutely love to ride a lightened, well setup M1000. I can only imagaine how awesome they can be when properly setup. After all, I seem to be partial to 1000cc sleds. No argument here.

Unfortunately, the one had the opportunity to ride felt like the extra 30lbs the M1000 packs over the M8 was residing right on the front bumper (and it already had the SLP pipe and can on it which saved some weight).

Remember, the M7 and M8s can certainly be lightened up as well. In fact, one of the tech reps from BDX told me they have several 2009 M8 153" Sno Pros that weighs in UNDER 400 lbs using their bolt on lightweight components.

Iluvtofly and I will have sleds in the 425-450 lb range that will be right at 170 hp with our SLP performance edition kits. That should be a kick! My RX-1 with it's 162 x 16 camo extreme, Boss seat, under tunnel exhaust, Holz front end, ECP filters, Wildchild rider forward kit, lightweight battery, etc. I bet is still well over 550 lbs. So, the M8 will be at LEAST 100 lbs. lighter than the RX-1 you are used to riding and you won't be giving up any power to do so. Imagine what that will do to your energy level at the end of the day and to your riding skills!

You're right though, if you can find a M7 that has the proper mods (someone needs to define what they would be) and lightweight goodies already done for under $4,000 you'd have one fine sled with which to start your journey down the path to the darkside.

 

[Hardass]

Aren't you like 6 foot 32 or something? how much do you weigh? I'm thinking that the m-7 would be light for you.But the m sled is the way to go.

 

[Bearcat]

If you want to use minimum budget, try to find RKT or Racin Station big bored M7. Bullet proof and way more power than stock 7.

 

[SLEDIOT]

I would not say uneducated, but more along the lines of aftermarket recommendation. Not to say you have to or even should stick to someone elses logic either. You are right about the 09 program and reflashing to more current ecu programs. But as a blanket statement, i thought mine was accurate. Also elevation can make or break either of our statements. I am just above and below 1000ft, so that makes a difference too. No doubt, that if you ride the safe side of the edge you have a contending sled, but a sled running the not so safe side of the edge runs the risk of getting a tow home and a fresh top end.

In terms of performance and power, there is no replacement for displacement. But most of the boondockers of the world would shed pounds before looking for the high mark sled... starting close to 30lbs less, the 7 and 8's are my go to choice.

First of all my apologies F_ast my undereducated statement was the wrong choice of words. I am 5'9" and weigh 240 in the winter. I ride 3-7000 ft so yes there is a diff with elevation and burndown especially at 1000ft!!! Personally I wouldnt ride at 1000 ft. That is a very fine edge. And would require like what 95gr weights to control rpm and fueling. I think we are all right with our statements. Bottom line I LOVE both of my sleds ,M-7-900 and m1000. I wouldnt trade them for the world................

 

[Klimbing Kitty]

First of all my apologies F_ast my undereducated statement was the wrong choice of words. I am 5'9" and weigh 240 in the winter. I ride 3-7000 ft so yes there is a diff with elevation and burndown especially at 1000ft!!! Personally I wouldnt ride at 1000 ft. That is a very fine edge. And would require like what 95gr weights to control rpm and fueling. I think we are all right with our statements. Bottom line I LOVE both of my sleds ,M-7-900 and m1000. I wouldnt trade them for the world................

Want to trade?

 

[cappel]

I bought my '07 M8 in Feb. and I love it! I always thought it couldn't get any better than my Max but boy was I wrong. Don't get me wrong though, I still have the Max and it's awesome but the cat...Tons of power, lighter even though it's bigger,so much fun and effortless to ride. lemme just say, technology is your friend. Just riding a new machine makes increase you riding ability! After throwing around the lead sled Max then jumping on the AC I became such a better rider. My confidence is much higher now too. No matter what you get, 7,8, or 1000, you can't go wrong. Damn AC ought to start throwing me some money for this infomercial. Ha Like 89Sandman said too, reverse is key. and to quote frostbite...

I find myself doing stuff on my new M8 that I had no idea I could do on my Rx-1. I now take much more technical lines, I can turn around and shoot back up a hill at the half way point, it seem slike my riding skills went up 10 times with the change.

 

[wheresthesnow]

Not last winter but the winter before I considered trading my 06 Apex for a 07 M100 that was bone stock, I have a 08 M8 also. I demo rode the M1000 for a day on a good ride and was really disapointed in the M1000, it seemed a lot heavier than my M8 and didn't have a ton more power, and it rode like crap, but that likely was a setup issue. I wanted a M1000 cause I love the M8 and figured the extra power would be good. I kept the Apex and put a EZ Ryde and the Extreme track and now its awesome. I'd be tempted to get a newer M1000, that 07 just wasn't the one though.

 

[SLEDIOT]

Not last winter but the winter before I considered trading my 06 Apex for a 07 M100 that was bone stock, I have a 08 M8 also. I demo rode the M1000 for a day on a good ride and was really disapointed in the M1000, it seemed a lot heavier than my M8 and didn't have a ton more power, and it rode like crap, but that likely was a setup issue. I wanted a M1000 cause I love the M8 and figured the extra power would be good. I kept the Apex and put a EZ Ryde and the Extreme track and now its awesome. I'd be tempted to get a newer M1000, that 07 just wasn't the one though.

You are totally right there. The 07's were like 525 lbs dry and their fueling was completly f u c k e d!!!! Too bad because it gave the m1000 a bad name for the first couple yrs. Like I said above an 07 with the 09 ecu reflash becomes an animal. But still too heavy for my liking
I waited till the 3rd yr before getting my m1 and now it looks like it is headed for the moth ball convention. Seems the hype these days is the m8 as they keep squeekin more hp out of it every year..............

 

[arctic cat 4 life]

go with an m7 they DOMINATE!

 

[Samurai]

LIGHTEN THE 1000 UP...EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT ENGINE MODS BUT DONT FORGET THE SKID IS WHAT DELIVERS THE POWER TO THE SNOW. A EFFICENT SKID ADDS H.P.