I rode with a guy that had a dragon 7 with a properly valved timbersled, and it was awesome! Took over for the lack of motor, and compensated to keep it right with 1000's on an uphill drag race on varying conditions. I also rode an apex last year with an ez ride suspension. On the hard core whooped out trail it soaked up the bumps really nicely. As far as handling, i dont know, it was good, but still an apex. Not comparable to a lighter sled...