Looking to upgrade track and possibly rear skid

[dfinn]

I've got an '08 Nytro MTX. I live in Utah and ride mostly deep powder. I like boondocking but also want to be able to climb. Occasionally my sled gets doubled up on when used for skiing. This was my first mountain sled and first year out west with a sled. I was pretty happy overall with my Nytro last season but I definitely felt like I was getting stuck more than other people and also couldn't keep up with other sleds when it came to climbing and high marking.

I've done some reading up and it sounds like my best bang for buck as far as upgrades goes is the rear skid and track to improve deep snow performance. I'll probably look to get a turbo down the road but it won't be happening any time soon.

1) How much of a difference will I notice with just upgrading the track vs a whole new rear skid?

2) Should I be looking at going to 162 or something longer than what my sled came with from the factory?

3) What track? Do I need to upgrade the drivers?

4) is Timbersled the way to go for new rear skid?

 

[drinkwyo]

Your going to spend over 3 grand if you change out the track and rear skid. You want to go to a 162 if you go that route. Rear skid options are ez ryde and timbersled. For another 3 grand you could be very close to a complete turbo setup. If it was mine, invest in a turbo. A nytro without a turbo is faily dissapointing IMO regardless of track and rear skid. A turbo nytro with stock track and rear skid will get you up most hills you need to get up

 

[philsummers21]

Also look into KMOD for a rear skid. 162 will help with flotation vs the 153. Another option is to go with a big wheel and a 156. Track alone would help immensly as the Maverick is a POS. new skid helps with the weight loss.

 

[tranquillicer]

Advise

Your going to spend over 3 grand if you change out the track and rear skid. You want to go to a 162 if you go that route. Rear skid options are ez ryde and timbersled. For another 3 grand you could be very close to a complete turbo setup. If it was mine, invest in a turbo. A nytro without a turbo is faily dissapointing IMO regardless of track and rear skid. A turbo nytro with stock track and rear skid will get you up most hills you need to get up

This here is some very good advise. Stock Nytro is a bit of a dog in the steeper stuff. Needs more than a track and some suspension upgrades to be good in deep and steep.

 

[dfinn]

This here is some very good advise. Stock Nytro is a bit of a dog in the steeper stuff. Needs more than a track and some suspension upgrades to be good in deep and steep.

is 6 grand what it realistically costs to get a reliable turbo setup that will run on pump gas and still perform well at high elevation?

The thing is that even if I do end up going with a turbo down the road, I'm still going to end up being unhappy with the POS stock track and possibly the rear skid as well. I probably can't afford to go turbo for this season. I can definitely afford to upgrade the track and possibly rear skid so I'm thinking do that now and plan for a turbo down the road.

What tracks should I be looking into and am I going to have to change/upgrade drivers too?

Any reason not to go 162 for where I live and the type of riding I do?

 

[snobeel]

I would say that the consensus is correct. The best bang for the buck is boost, whether it is turbo or supercharger. But if the bucks aren't there for boost, I would suggest the 162 power claw track with rail extensions. You won't need to change the drivers or anything else. I would think you could pick up the track for $500 to $800 and I think the rail extensions are in the $100 range. The improvement will be nice (ie get stuck less or at least farther up the hill), but you likely still won't outclimb other sleds. Sure you could do new rails, two wheel kit, suspension work, etc., but for my money I like to do one change at a time and see the difference and then make the next move.

The other track to consider is the camoplast mountain extreme (I think), but I have a friend with that track and it seems to cause some vibration that the powerclaw doesn't.

Hope that helps.

PS A nytro with a stage 1 supercharger and otherwise completely stock will outclimb every other STOCK sled out there, even with the POS maverick. I have seen that first hand.

 

[dfinn]

That does help, thanks. Unfortunately I just don't see boost happening this year as much as I would like it to.

I think I forgot to mention that part of the reason why I'm looking to upgrade this is that one of my rails is bent, or so my shop told me when they went to install new hyfaxes this past spring.

So it looks like I need a set of new rails, not just the extensions. Is Ice Age the best place to get these from?

 

[snobeel]

My buddy is running ice age rails and they seem to be durable. Lets just say that he 'tests' his stuff. The good news is that he gave me his whole skid to rob parts from and I don't need the rails. I'm not sure where Sandy UT is, but I am in western Colorado and go to Lake Powell and Moab a lot if you are interested. You can email me at jack@albright-associates.com.

Jack

 

[traveler]

Beside the skids mentioned above I would take a good look @ racer's edge version of the m-10. There' s a post on here about "awesome new skid from racers edge".
Your in Utah, I'd talk to Paul @ impulse, he'll give you the straight!

 

[motojunkie101]

Last year I tossed the junk skid and track and put on a power claw and timbersled mtn tamer.

It made a HUGE difference, and between the track, rails, skid, and big wheel kit I was only into it for around 2300. On the hill I was going everywhere the 800's in my group were going without any issues.

I'm not sure I'd pick the timbersled if you'll be riding double though. The Air shocks will bottom out with that much weight on them unless you pump them WAY up, and then they'll ride super stiff once you drop off your buddy.

 

[TBird]

Upgrading the snowmobile never ends .
You have several options you can choose, first start with the budget, when you know how much you are willing to put in the sled this year you have a better ability to make the right decision. Better track and skid in all it's glory, it never substitute an Turbo, i am the first to say that stock track is a piece of s*** and needs to be substituted tho.
But, i would anyway start with the Turbo and get some left over rails from someone that got the Ice Age .
Year 1 : MCX new Nytro kit, simple, fast installation with an attractive price.
Year 2 : Challenger Extreme, preferably in 162" length, with straight Ice Age rails.

Good luck!

 

[dfinn]

Beside the skids mentioned above I would take a good look @ racer's edge version of the m-10. There' s a post on here about "awesome new skid from racers edge".
Your in Utah, I'd talk to Paul @ impulse, he'll give you the straight!

Took a quick look through that thread and came up with one issue. It's about $750 more than the Timbersled. Not sure if that skid for $2000 includes rails or not but even if you include me buying new ice age 162 rails it's still a good bit cheaper. I'll keep reading up though, thanks for the heads up.

Does Paul do more than just turbos? I'm looking for a trusty wrench around SLC, I haven't been that happy with where I've been taking my sled.

 

[traveler]

Took a quick look through that thread and came up with one issue. It's about $750 more than the Timbersled. Not sure if that skid for $2000 includes rails or not but even if you include me buying new ice age 162 rails it's still a good bit cheaper. I'll keep reading up though, thanks for the heads up.

Does Paul do more than just turbos? I'm looking for a trusty wrench around SLC, I haven't been that happy with where I've been taking my sled.

Not sure if he does anything more than turbo's, but he has plenty of experience w/ nytro's and skids. Can't hurt to talk w/ him.

 

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[BigFish BC]

if you are looking to save some money buy a cat float skid for about 700-800$ with a little work you save a bunch of money,they are light & work good.

 

[TBird]

if you are looking to save some money buy a cat float skid for about 700-800$ with a little work you save a bunch of money,they are light & work good.

Do they???
I heard they make Yamaha wheelie machines, not good if plans are for turbo charging in the future!

 

[dfinn]

For where I live and the type of snow (deep ) my sled usually sees should I be looking to go to a 2.5" lug track? It looks like the PowerClaw only comes in 2.25 but I could pick up a Challenger Extreme in either 2.5 or 3" lug.

Any thoughts on that decision?

 

[messymike]

Do they???
I heard they make Yamaha wheelie machines, not good if plans are for turbo charging in the future!

I have a 08 m8 skid in my Nytro. Way better flotation, awesome jumper and crazy easy on sliders - but crapy weight transfer. I would think this skid would work well with boost. I need to figure out how to get some of that wheelie for now.

 

[TBird]

I have a 08 m8 skid in my Nytro. Way better flotation, awesome jumper and crazy easy on sliders - but crapy weight transfer. I would think this skid would work well with boost. I need to figure out how to get some of that wheelie for now.

Something must differ, the only guy i know who mounted an Cat skid (from an M1000) on an Nytro MCX said that it became a wheelie monster, unrideable, did you have to bend the front of the rails because they would have speared the track else?

 

[messymike]

I didn't want to mess with the rails. I went with BD anti stabs. I am considering lowering the front mount point but this will work on the anti stabs even harder. Do you think I can bend the rails some without problem?