Little Truckee Summit Parking Lot
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the way i read that is that the people with vacation homes are using the public parking lot instead of the alotted parking set aside for them, there for taking up space for the people who want to use the public lot and causing them to have to park on the road. Seems to me that the people with vacation homes should stick to their designated parking and leave the public parking for all other users
I would agree that from the way i read it is that some homeowner are purposely parking in public long term areas in the hopes to keep public access down and in turn causing congestion which in the long run will work to their advantage in limiting access on the basis of public safety.
Wusup makes a good point - Is the designated homeowner parking inadequate? I am all for low regulations and public access but I am against home owners who feel that they have bought a piece land and use public land to access it only to turn around and try to block everyone eles's access to that same public land. That is just not right.
Wusup makes a good point - Is the designated homeowner parking inadequate? I am all for low regulations and public access but I am against home owners who feel that they have bought a piece land and use public land to access it only to turn around and try to block everyone eles's access to that same public land. That is just not right.
We wish that the Forest Service had expanded the parking lot when they had the chance years ago. Snowmobilers would not be having to park on Highway 89 those 4 or so busy days a year. We as homeowners and snowmobilers are in a different class . Yes our parking lot is adequete at the price of $15,000 per year to now about $7000.00. By the way we are in the dirt with no
snow removal. WE do not think it is fair to the snowmobilers to have a 72 hour limit on parking. We know several people who come out for the week and snowmobile. I guess thier motorhomes and campers would not be in compliance. A 72 hour limit will do nothing to ease the congestion on the bluebird freshy days on the holiday weekends. As a home owner I have been fighting for a place to park for 10 years. I now have a some what affordable place to park so no reason for 72 hour parking. By the way I pay big money in taxes a get no services. Not even a place to park my car.
snow removal. WE do not think it is fair to the snowmobilers to have a 72 hour limit on parking. We know several people who come out for the week and snowmobile. I guess thier motorhomes and campers would not be in compliance. A 72 hour limit will do nothing to ease the congestion on the bluebird freshy days on the holiday weekends. As a home owner I have been fighting for a place to park for 10 years. I now have a some what affordable place to park so no reason for 72 hour parking. By the way I pay big money in taxes a get no services. Not even a place to park my car.
Hey Trackman
Definitely don’t take this the wrong way I am just trying to have an open discussion regarding this issue.
You make the two following statements
"Yes our parking lot is adequate at the price of $15,000 per year to now about $7000.00. By the way we are in the dirt lot with no snow removal."
And
"As a home owner I have been fighting for a place to park for 10 years. I now have a some what affordable place to park so no reason for 72 hour parking. By the way I pay big money in taxes a get no services. Not even a place to park my car"
It sounds like you are trying to fight this restriction and to make your point you are using examples of why it should be implemented. To me looking in from the outside it looks like your fight is with your private Home Owners Association for not plowing your parking area so that home owners have adequate reserved parking which you have to pay for in fee’s. You are a part of the Association being a home owner in the area correct? What you pay for parking is irrelevant to this discussion because it is a fee associated with being provided a reserved parking spot for you as a home owner by your private Association. If you are not being provided a service that you are paying for, the problem is with the people that are suppose to be providing that service. If you want to use the areas reserved for the public to use, there are rules you must follow. One rule being public parking is considered short term not long term. Using public areas for private use is wrong and using public areas for long term parking for your residence is just that.
I am against many regulations when they limit the public access to public forest land. We loose more and more areas to ride each and every year. You are right that this regulation will not totally eliminate traffic congestion on busy days and weekends because LTS is a small area to begin with. However I am also against private land owners who feel they have a right to limit access to public access points by any means that is necessary. I view private home owners parking in areas that are set aside for public use for their long term parking needs when they already have areas that are set aside for them is exactly what they are doing.
This regulation would help in the prevention of people using the public areas for their private needs Yes?. Also in the lower left hand corner it explains that people camping for seven days or less will not be affected by this regulatuion and lists another source for that regulation. So as far as your friends with motorhome they will be covered under that clause. Where am I wrong in is train of thought?
Definitely don’t take this the wrong way I am just trying to have an open discussion regarding this issue.
You make the two following statements
"Yes our parking lot is adequate at the price of $15,000 per year to now about $7000.00. By the way we are in the dirt lot with no snow removal."
And
"As a home owner I have been fighting for a place to park for 10 years. I now have a some what affordable place to park so no reason for 72 hour parking. By the way I pay big money in taxes a get no services. Not even a place to park my car"
It sounds like you are trying to fight this restriction and to make your point you are using examples of why it should be implemented. To me looking in from the outside it looks like your fight is with your private Home Owners Association for not plowing your parking area so that home owners have adequate reserved parking which you have to pay for in fee’s. You are a part of the Association being a home owner in the area correct? What you pay for parking is irrelevant to this discussion because it is a fee associated with being provided a reserved parking spot for you as a home owner by your private Association. If you are not being provided a service that you are paying for, the problem is with the people that are suppose to be providing that service. If you want to use the areas reserved for the public to use, there are rules you must follow. One rule being public parking is considered short term not long term. Using public areas for private use is wrong and using public areas for long term parking for your residence is just that.
I am against many regulations when they limit the public access to public forest land. We loose more and more areas to ride each and every year. You are right that this regulation will not totally eliminate traffic congestion on busy days and weekends because LTS is a small area to begin with. However I am also against private land owners who feel they have a right to limit access to public access points by any means that is necessary. I view private home owners parking in areas that are set aside for public use for their long term parking needs when they already have areas that are set aside for them is exactly what they are doing.
This regulation would help in the prevention of people using the public areas for their private needs Yes?. Also in the lower left hand corner it explains that people camping for seven days or less will not be affected by this regulatuion and lists another source for that regulation. So as far as your friends with motorhome they will be covered under that clause. Where am I wrong in is train of thought?
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You are right the Forest Service is not in the business to deal with the home owners. The country is and when you get two government agencys trying to work together, good luck. Just to clear up a couple of points. We know of no home owners up here who want to limit the publics access to this area. We are not a homeowners association. We do park in an area leased from the county and are not taking away spaces in the public lot. This is why I posted this. The forest service is just blaming us for the parking problem. I love snowmobiling and I will fight for snowmobilng in this area until the day I die.
Hey track man
Thank you for the information. Sorry i was under the impression that that areas had a Home Owners Association like so many of them do up there. I agree trying to get two agancies to work together is rediculous at best. I would not put it past the FS to try to blame the home owners either. they seem to be trying harder to limit access all over the state of Nevada and California in the past few years and things seem to get worse every year. Thanks again for the information and i hope things work out fair for everyone involved. Lately it seems like the us in the snowmobile community are always left standing with the short end of the stick Have a safe season.
Thank you for the information. Sorry i was under the impression that that areas had a Home Owners Association like so many of them do up there. I agree trying to get two agancies to work together is rediculous at best. I would not put it past the FS to try to blame the home owners either. they seem to be trying harder to limit access all over the state of Nevada and California in the past few years and things seem to get worse every year. Thanks again for the information and i hope things work out fair for everyone involved. Lately it seems like the us in the snowmobile community are always left standing with the short end of the stick Have a safe season.
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Even if restrictions are put in place, there still will not be enough parking. We should concentrate on more parking from the OHV funds from the state. The Governor has already raided some of the OHV funds to the general fund! I hear nothing from the CNSA about this, what are we pussies? I thought years ago the parking was to be expanded where the homeowners are parking now. What happened? Obviously some landowner out there has clout.
Even if restrictions are put in place, there still will not be enough parking. We should concentrate on more parking from the OHV funds from the state. The Governor has already raided some of the OHV funds to the general fund! I hear nothing from the CNSA about this, what are we pussies? I thought years ago the parking was to be expanded where the homeowners are parking now. What happened? Obviously some landowner out there has clout.
To clear up a couple things the old parking lot expansion was to be behind the bathroom up on the hill. They started the project in the 90's and the TH said they would file a law suit. There you go no parking lot. The money for the lot Disappeared. Good luck every getting it back. We all need to complain to the Forest Service about the 72 hour parking and maybe we can get this overturned. We do not need any more rules. Thanks Track Man
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What is TH? So a lawsuit is threatened and we give up? What did the CNSA have to say about this? We are pussies! Too bad I didn't know about this I would have fought back. Also what about Xskiers we subsidize their parking, they pay no fees. We are unorganized and will lose incrementally till there's only postage stamp riding areas. The state raises OHV fees then takes the money and puts it in the general fund. What a scam.
What is TH? So a lawsuit is threatened and we give up? What did the CNSA have to say about this? We are pussies! Too bad I didn't know about this I would have fought back. Also what about Xskiers we subsidize their parking, they pay no fees. We are unorganized and will lose incrementally till there's only postage stamp riding areas. The state raises OHV fees then takes the money and puts it in the general fund. What a scam.
The state sent me a questionare asking me as a buyer of OHV tags if I snowshoe and crosscountry ski.
What's up with that?
I am guessing TH = Tree Huggers but that would not be politically correct to say. I am also guessing that they are researching how much additional funding can be genereated by implementing fees on XC sking and snowshoeing. If you already buy a OHV sticker you would not be part of any additional revenue stream if they started requiring XC sking and snowshoeing user fee's Remember CA is broke like so many other states right now and they are looking for any means necessary to generate revenue.
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Maybe take some of the OHV money to fund XC sking and snowshoeing ?
