Letter to the President

[thomps33]

This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii

for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes

all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body,

he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now.

He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the
president.


Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year.
People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain
wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and
after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest
home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive
the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind,
blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but
you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can't figure out what country you are the president of.

You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies
like:

" We're no longer a Christian nation"

" America is arrogant" - (Your wife even

announced to the world,"America is mean-

spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching

that nonsense to 23 generations of our

war dead buried all over the globe who

died for no other reason than to free a

whole lot of strangers from tyranny and

hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do
I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts
this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a
dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000
farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or
maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000
men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000
fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for
in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us
around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than
discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people
understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I
can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue.
You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of
murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to
conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow
soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you
did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in
Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the
police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics
by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to
defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now,
son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for
40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're
not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is
not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge
ever presented to any president.

You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated
economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who
we are as Americans is our big fight now.

And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this
final battle.

Sincerely,

Harold B. Estes

 

[motojunkie101]

props to him! Its sad to think that most of the people with common sense are going to be gone before too long.

 

[Chazmanian]

A humble man without a political bone in his body

I will humbly disagree. Harold seems to have a skeltal composition made of "Political Bones".

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but
you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I wonder how mad Harold was when the Prescription drug bill was passed a few years ago or huge tax breaks for the wealthiest of the wealthy? Was Harold not pissed off at that point or his Pissed-ness something new?


One would have to assume that in making this statement Harolds time on this fine earth he still dosent understand liberal or left wing Democratic politics? Differences in political opinion have been and still are politicized with fear. Nothing new Harold. Love ya' man but Dems will be Dems...Heres what Reagan said when the Dems pushed Medicaid through back in the 60's.:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

We're no longer a Christian nation:

Obama, June 28, 2006 (as delivered): Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

The inaccurate version – omitting the word "just" – has been spread in an organized effort to discredit Obama. Not political Harold? Thats the stuff of chain E-Mails and Kook Talk. Not even the farthest leaning right wing talk show hosts use that one as it moot and bunk. Sorry Harold...But even Beck would find that one to be a stretch.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

Pure tactical devisive political talk. You could find McCain saying the same things...Long after 9/11. This statement is put in such a manner as to lead the reader into thinking that right after the Terrorists rammed our building Obama stood up and said we havent lived up to our ideals? Ummmm OK.

In regards to torture, off shore gulags things that are edgier than what we have done in the past? Bush stated "We do not torture" any canidate with a chance in hell in 08' was going to have to take an anti-torture stance period. If pro-torture is what Harlod is after he will need to get Liz or Dick Cheney the GOP nomination in 2012...Good luck on that one Harold!

You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of
murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

I wonder if Harold was more pissed about Bush kissing a Saudi leader on the face and walking around holding hands as he was with Obama bowing to a Jap? Pure good ol' politicikin' at its finest Harold!!

The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

Is Harold possibly naive enough to think that politics and strategizing play no role in War? Whilst I agree with Harold....I'm not quite as ........Naive.

Shape up and start acting like an American.

How absurd is this comment. The guy is the President of this country. I'm unsure of what "Acting like an American" is supposed to entail in this modern era.....Maybe that means act like a Republican?

When your battle-hardened field General asks you for
40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him

Ummmm.....Harold for being so humble and non-political you are a crafty one with the good old standardized GOP talking points. The fact of the matter is the GOP has effectively used the fear card for years and will continue to do so. The GOP needs a better message than fear. Fear no longer equates to 50+1. Carl Rove wore out the fear book....Time for something new and exciting. How about some big tax cuts? Thats always a good standby!!

I vote Republican not due to the silly talk but simply because I dont trust Libs with my riding areas....Short of that? Harold needs to turn off the AM radio and spend more time enjoying his final years playing chess or listening to music rather than the political spin doctors.

Google Harold Estes and whilst you cant really find Harold hisself? You find every conservative blogger a right wing whackjob site instead?

 

[Wolfrun]

Chazzman, you are some piece of work!

 

[swampwater]

And there my friend you have discovered the reason this country is

in trouble.Swampy

Quote:
We're no longer a Christian nation:



Obama, June 28, 2006 (as delivered): Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

The inaccurate version – omitting the word "just" – has been spread in an organized effort to discredit Obama. Not political Harold? Thats the stuff of chain E-Mails and Kook Talk. Not even the farthest leaning right wing talk show hosts use that one as it moot and bunk. Sorry Harold...But even Beck would find that one to be a stretch.

 

[Wade]

I sure Obama's couple years as a community organizer, makes him a military decision maker.

Economy did rather nice under the tax breaks, it was the stupid housing loans, and the well documented avoidance of the issue, by the leaders of Congress, that caused the economy to fail. Harold is probably covered by the VA, not the prescription drug package.

Oh, Obama isn't acting like an American. He's acting like a Tyrant.

Lay off the Beck and Blimpo comments. Geeze Mold.

 

[Chazmanian]

Chazzman, you are some piece of work!

Thanks man!

This IS NOT the Republican Party I grew up with. This is a whole new animal based in Southern Conservatism. Their goal remains the same as it has been now for 150 years, to tear this nation apart.

 

[Chazmanian]

Oh, Obama isn't acting like an American. He's acting like a Typical Liberal. Nothing more nothing less. Suprised?

Fixed that for ya' Wade.

 

[Wade]

Fixed that for ya' Wade.

I guess if Reed and Pelosi are typical liberals, maybe a typical liberal has a tyrant complex.

 

[shortstop20]

Chazzman, you are some piece of work!

Why don't you debate it then?

 

[Wade]

I will humbly disagree. Harold seems to have a skeltal composition made of "Political Bones".

Well, I assume your opinion of Harold, prior to this writing, is much more valid than his word?

One would have to assume that in making this statement Harolds time on this fine earth he still dosent understand liberal or left wing Democratic politics? Differences in political opinion have been and still are politicized with fear. Nothing new Harold. Love ya' man but Dems will be Dems...

Maybe Harold is referring to the death of liberty and freedom, and capitalism? Not being controlled by foreign powers? What good is medicade, when the soul is murdered by socialism?

The inaccurate version – omitting the word "just" – has been spread in an organized effort to discredit Obama. Not political Harold? Thats the stuff of chain E-Mails and Kook Talk. Not even the farthest leaning right wing talk show hosts use that one as it moot and bunk. Sorry Harold...But even Beck would find that one to be a stretch.

Even when the founding fathers made their speeches, upon the founding of this great nation. They said we are a christian nation. Now we are not, exclusively christian. Maybe it's Harold's perspective, that that we should be. It's just his opinion.

Pure tactical devisive political talk. You could find McCain saying the same things...Long after 9/11. This statement is put in such a manner as to lead the reader into thinking that right after the Terrorists rammed our building Obama stood up and said we havent lived up to our ideals? Ummmm OK.

There is shame of a things. But, I don't believe anyone lost the context of comrade Mrs. Obama's many statements about how he felt about this country. Some believe her ideas are that America surrender to the third world.

I wonder if Harold was more pissed about Bush kissing a Saudi leader on the face and walking around holding hands as he was with Obama bowing to a Jap? Pure good ol' politicikin' at its finest Harold!!

Probably so. Don't forget bowing to the Saudia.

Is Harold possibly naive enough to think that politics and strategizing play no role in War? Whilst I agree with Harold....I'm not quite as ........Naive.

I think someone needs to constantly remind them lives are attached to their games.

Ummmm.....Harold for being so humble and non-political you are a crafty one with the good old standardized GOP talking points. The fact of the matter is the GOP has effectively used the fear card for years and will continue to do so. The GOP needs a better message than fear. Fear no longer equates to 50+1. Carl Rove wore out the fear book....Time for something new and exciting. How about some big tax cuts? Thats always a good standby!!

A man might be considered dumb for not fearing the krap Obama wants to push on us. Carbon Tax, medical tax, no freedom of conservative speech, guns, more taxs, taxes taxes taxes.

Tax cuts for Ho's and Pimps. Tax cuts, ahhh refunds, for people that don't pay taxes. That's what he has in mind.



I'm sure it will turn out that old Harold had help composing this. But, I hate Obama's socialism, so I agree with most of it.

Geeze, this forum has changed.

 

[Chazmanian]

I'm sure it will turn out that old Harold had help composing this

The letter is essentially a chain e-mail....If Harold is involved great. If not who cares. Some recovering drug addict ex top 40 radio DJ's tell a conservative that the sky is falling....They all run for shelter?.

But, I hate Obama's socialism, so I agree with most of it.

Its not Obama's socialism. Its Liberal socialism. By continually attacking the individual instead of the party you echo hyperbole and talk radio fantasy land. Clinton tried at health care...Its Liberal Democratic politics. I feel all the silly personal attacks will come back to bite anyone right of center in 2012....Its just devisive silly talk.

I wonder though where Harold would honestly be right now without a tad of socialism?

Harolds entire exsistance revoles around Government money. He is surely on SS, plus collects a military pension and gets treated at the VA.

I like Harold....Just wish he would turn off the Rush Limpbow show!

 

[Wade]

Its not Obama's socialism. Its Liberal socialism. By continually attacking the individual instead of the party you echo hyperbole and talk radio fantasy land. Clinton tried at health care...Its Liberal Democratic politics. I feel all the silly personal attacks will come back to bite anyone right of center in 2012....Its just devisive silly talk.

Nope, there's something different this time. Clinton surrounded himself with con-men. Obama, surrounds himself with card carrying communist. Clinton didn't have the congress we have today. Clinton would just make sure you turned up dead. Obama, wants to this country to become a low level world player, and suck the wealth out of it, and ship it to the third world.

When I refer to Obama's socialism, I'm referring to the entire executive branch, he installed.

 

[suitcase]

Harold, wheather or not he had help is an outstanding Americam, and needs to be comended for his thoughts and his letter. Because it is right on the money!!!!!!! There should be more of this kind of letter sent to our so called president!! Our for fathers lived and died to build this country and he is wasting all of the blood sweat and tears give by those men and women. We all should respect Harold and love him for his service and his thoughts on our president!!!!!!
Thank you for this post!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chazmanian]

suitcase69;1957095]Harold, wheather or not he had help is an outstanding Americam, and needs to be comended for his thoughts and his letter. Because it is right on the money!!!!!!!

Its not right on any money Suitcase....Nothing personal against you or your beliefs but that letter is simply talk radio fantsy talk that wont hold water in any debate. Simple silly rhetoric. If thats your right on the money and the GOP continues to be led down a path of non-factual hyperbole via talk radio hosts....We are in trouble.

There should be more of this kind of letter sent to our so called president!!

Once again...Tuck away your hood and robe buddy before someone see's it. This guy agree with his politics or not is our duly elected President. To try and discredit that is simply dumb. We have a process here in America. You may not like it all the time but its the way we work. We elect our leaders. The man was duly elected. To say he is our so called President puts you at the level of those scumbags who drovce around with "Impeach Bush" bumper stickers. I would never question another mans patriotism but that so called stuff is simply lame Bro. Wake up.

Our for fathers lived and died to build this country and he is wasting all of the blood sweat and tears give by those men and women.

What are you even talking about Dude? I hope for your sake you actually look at the facts. If anything Obama is a warmonger Liberal...Right along the vein of LBJ. To say that in 10 months in office the man is somehow wasting the blodd sweat and tears of our service members in a war he he ramped up and doubled and soon will have tripled our troop levels is just ignorant and unfair. You Sir? Have certainly never served or pay no attention to reality.

We all should respect Harold and love him for his service and his thoughts on our president!!!!!!
Thank you for this post!!!!!!!!!

Respecting Harold is one thing...But demonizing another approach to politics and slanderizing our sitting President is weaker than carnival lemonade.

Glean some factoids before jumping to conclusions based on unsubstaaniated letters distributed via chain mail.

Fact of the matter is we are a nation of laws...And we do not toture folks evil or not. Even Bush concurred with that....Fact of the matter is Bush wanted to close Guantanamo and try those guys here as well. fact of the matter is the whole Christian nation thing is taken way out of context...Fact of the matter is the American people choose in an open election in 2008 that we will not be a nation who totures, that we will not be a nation with offshore Gulags and that we will follow the rule of law. That was clear and concise. You may disagree? But the people have spoken and thats what they wanted.

Health care? They knew full well what they wanted. The public option or Universal health care fans came out in droves...They won.

The stimilus and tarp crap? Sucks. Both parties are guilty.

This whole battle hardened general line? Well when we start letting Generals make war policy choices for us as a nation our current form of government will be changed forever.

Military Dictatorships are not in the cards anytime soon. Until then we must let the "Suits" decide when, where and how been like that for a while now Bro...

 

[suitcase]

I HAVE SERVED!!!!!! and yes I say so called president he is trying to take this country to a bad place, thats all I have to say about this!!!

 

[Chazmanian]

I HAVE SERVED!!!!!!

Then show the office the respect it deserves Troop. You are no better than the hippies commie bastards who slandered Bush.

Disagree with the policy yes!!.

Cheapen our country, our electoral process and the most powerful position in the known universe to the point of not accepting the man as our duly elected President?

Pffft. Slam some beers and smoke some rope with the loser Hippies and the tattered impeach Bush stickers on their VW's....You and your ilk are no better.

I say so called president he is trying to take this country to a bad place

Understand that its not just our President. You realize the Dems have both the house and the senate?

Obama has helpers. Lots of helpers. Who is the Senator from your state? Do you even know?

Who is your congressman? Do you know that? Do you care? Do you think Obama can singlehandedly change our country from a Capitilistic free market economy to a Socialist cesspool all on his own?


Here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ Some of you seriously need this.

 

[Wade]

Oh come on. Obama sold hope and dreams to people that watch Oprah for a living.

He sold healthcare to the masses, because they where told the rich people would pay for it. He had people praising the lord, that they wouldn't have to pay their mortgage anymore, or worry about gassing up the car, because Obama was gonna take care of it for them.

He told them he would send US monies to the third world, world welfare he called it, and people swore he never said it.

The media couldn't bring itself to say one negative thing about Obama. Do you really think Obama could have ever gotten elected, had the media done even the slightest bit of investigative journalism???????? If they attacked Biden the way they did Palin, if they made fun of Obama the way they did McCain. He'd have never been elected. People had to wait and see for themselves what they elected, because the media wouldn't say. Heck, the media still won't say anything negative about Obama. Obama said fox didn't count.

One story TRUE story about his birth certificate. His college writings. His wifes deep love for this country . One story where they simply told the truth about his great accomplishments, NONE.

All we have to do, is keep these socialist programs of Obama's, under control, and off the signing table, and by 2012, he will be a goner.

 

[suitcase]

Yes of course I now who my congresmen is and senator are, you crack me up. The house and the senate, yes is Dem's just like Obummer. A bleeding heart liberal!!! But Obama is talking it one step futher with his crap about the climate change. Read the tready he WILL sign in dec. in copenhagen, due us all a favor. Them maybe you can see what he really is, not what he wants us to think he is!!!

And for you who voted for Obama THANKS ALOT!!!!!!

 

[Chazmanian]

Yes of course I now who my congresmen is and senator are, you crack me up. !!

You Sir hail from a state with Senators and Congressmen so far left they make Obama look like a poster child for conservatism.

Have you ever Biotched and cried about the fact that your state sends folks to Washington who are absolute radical lefty libs hell bent on killing our free market economy essentially changing everything you ever thought you stood for? or is it just "Obummer" thats Bums you out?

But since you seem convinced that Obummer simply writes laws on his own without any help from your extremist lefty radicals in Oregon?


Just in case you missed it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

If you are that wound up over Obama....You must be incensed with your state reps. I would pack it up and move to Idaho or Alaska if your beliefs are as strong as you contend they are.

My guess is that they arent really that strong.