I can say my Klim stuff outperforms the my old bibs and columbia jacket. I don't think you can go wrong with klim. I only have one gripe about my togwotee bibs. The zipper down the leg is up in your armpit so you have to open your coat to get into your pants pockets. I am sure it has its advantages from a sealing stand point, but it can be a bit of a hassle....minor point tho.