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junk shocks on 08 xp 163

I've went to two differnt dealers now with my 08 xp 163 about shock issues with the rear skid they wont do a damn thing to replace them. with about 40lbs of weight to the rear of the tunnel the suspension will bottom out and stay down it wont even try to come up no rebound. but if you lift the rear bumper it will stay up. one dealer said the summits are supposed to be like that for sidehilling. well what about the rest of the riding its f'in bottomed out!
If anyone else had an issue with this, or what your dealer did for you it would be great to hear back. errrrrrr!
 
Sag

What??? It isn't your shocks... It's the springs... Is your rear spring adjustment on the highest setting? Did you mess with your limitor strap?,, this will also change your sag... Your sled should sag a little....
 
skidoostyle, I had the same issue last year. At first my dealer told me it was supposed to do that. I explained that after 20 years of riding and racing motocross turning suspensions was something I was very familiar with. Suspensions are fairly strait forward there is compression, dampening, spring presser and REBOUND!!!! Then I was told to check the bolts that linked the system together and make sure they weren't to tight and binding the linkage. They weren't... So if the springs are set to the stiffest setting the limiter strap is 3/4 out and there is no other obvious problems, when I sit on my tunnel it should REBOUND!!! It didn't, it just sat on the track. The spring should push the tunnel back up however i think the shock had some valving problems and would hydraulically lock up when fully compressed and wouldn't release or rebound. So I said just order the flipped shock and if I'm wrong I'll pay for it out of my own pocket. After waiting all winter it showed up, so I pulled my sled out of storage took it in and sure enough BAD SHOCK!! They fixed it under warranty no problem. Tell your dealer to order you a new one then when it comes in, take them your old one and they can compare the two. If they wont do that for you tell them you know a dealer that will and that's where you will be heading when it comes time for a new sled!!!!!
 
I had the same basic issue with my REV.... and the same result from the dealer :( they kept telling me I needed the heavy duty springs and that it can't be bottoming out etc. I kept telling them that I bottomed that thing out withing the first mile I rode it and that the shock is certainly bad. Bottom line (even with buying an extended warranty from the dealer ) they didn't do chit about it and I ended up haveing to take the shock off and bring it to someone and have it rebuilt!!! All on my dime!
 
is your sled setting on rollers in the garage?I had similar problem.I removed wheels and put track and skis on floor and everything is fine,strange but true
 
skidoostyle, I had the same issue last year. At first my dealer told me it was supposed to do that. I explained that after 20 years of riding and racing motocross turning suspensions was something I was very familiar with. Suspensions are fairly strait forward there is compression, dampening, spring presser and REBOUND!!!! Then I was told to check the bolts that linked the system together and make sure they weren't to tight and binding the linkage. They weren't... So if the springs are set to the stiffest setting the limiter strap is 3/4 out and there is no other obvious problems, when I sit on my tunnel it should REBOUND!!! It didn't, it just sat on the track. The spring should push the tunnel back up however i think the shock had some valving problems and would hydraulically lock up when fully compressed and wouldn't release or rebound. So I said just order the flipped shock and if I'm wrong I'll pay for it out of my own pocket. After waiting all winter it showed up, so I pulled my sled out of storage took it in and sure enough BAD SHOCK!! They fixed it under warranty no problem. Tell your dealer to order you a new one then when it comes in, take them your old one and they can compare the two. If they wont do that for you tell them you know a dealer that will and that's where you will be heading when it comes time for a new sled!!!!!

hotboat is right , this is excatly the problem, the vavling is shot, the heavyier springs people are installing is just compensating for the weak shock. dealer recharged first shock, still no good. installed new shock and it lasted about a week. after it sits in the garage for a day the rear suspension is very stiff with stock springs, but once you work the shock a bit it just sacks out and stays there. hope brp comes up with a answer so i dont have to fork out the money for a float.
 
I ended up going around the dealer to get it resolved. You shouldn't have to do this but sometimes its worth the extra (at least for me) to get back out on the snow and enjoy the sled. I took mine to a local performance shop (not a dealer) and they fixed and rebuilt the shock for a reasonable fee and I was back out in steep and deep. Just a thought??
 
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