SW Video Is a $67k dollar snowmobile worth it?
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Ha ha. It's not for everyone. Burandt and Muskoka are competitive. I get it that you're not. Kind of like looking at a ferrari and saying they suck because you can't afford one or don't want one. Yes, they have to pack gas but those 2 sleds rip like nothing else. All in what you want out of your day. Not for everyone but that doesn't make it ridiculous.
Who is it you see packing gas? It's mostly turbo types who easily burn through a whole 12g tank. Please, someone report back if you meet anyone on the hill packing gas so they could run a smaller tank. I think Skinz did ok to sacrifice a few gallons to slim up the tank: it's still enough for a lot of people, while 5g means packing gas for most of us. I can see doing it just to force yourself into minimum weight when it matters, but it's a 1% kind of rider who's going to find it worth the hassle of juggling tunnel tanks. Nothing wrong with the sled, but the tiny tank seems like an experiment - I don't think you'll see anyone copying it in the wild.
I used to always pack gas. Now it depends on the day. Better to have and not need than need and not have. The 5 gallon tank was from the race department. Most can't even get one. I ran the skins tank on a 21 axys. It was awesome. 5 would be a pain but revert back to what you want out of a day. Watch the Muskoka video with 154 under it. It walks all over the other sleds. I know you don't want one and I get it. Most won't but it's not ridiculous.
back in the early days of mod sleds "88 and up" for me .we all ran a 5 gallon tank and packed gas, but we were pretty much just climbing anything that looked scary to climb so weight was key. We werent tree riding and climbing, it was all about the vertical. just like what Turboless is saying depends on what you want out of your day
I put an aftermarket tank on my kids sled and a gas rack so they can pack gas for me. Just like I did with my Dad.
He'd only put half a tank in his sled to have that power to weight advantage. Nevermind I was packing at least one 5g jerry can and wasn't allowed to drop it at the gas drop....ever. lol And that was 25-30 years ago!
He'd only put half a tank in his sled to have that power to weight advantage. Nevermind I was packing at least one 5g jerry can and wasn't allowed to drop it at the gas drop....ever. lol And that was 25-30 years ago!
We pack gas sometimes and dump the cans so we can rip it up, gas up, and make it home.
Lets not forget that Muskoka's sled came up because of RTR weights - and that empty bragging point would be the only noticeable benefit in a typical day of riding. I'm guessing a 5g tank is a couple pounds lighter (empty), but unless you're also dropping things like your spare belt to shave weight, you're admitting it's not worth it. If that's you, then point stipulated. If that's not you, defending a tiny tank and talking about how you pack gas in the same breath makes for quite an uphill battle.
I don't have a dog in this fight but your choice of words caught my eye.
It becomes less of an uphill battle when you can drop a fuel can at the bottom of a hill versus having a bigger tank
If you pack gas, you're not packing it all day long. You drop it off and go ride. Pick it up on the way back and fill up so you can make it back to the truck. That's kinda implied I thought....
I rode with his Dad with the original carbon chassis 174" 800 e-tec. It was perfect for the older guys. Super lightweight and the smooth power of a n/a 800. It was ski to ski with the Cutler 1000 156" all day long. That day stuck out so much I now have a carbon chassis PC because of it. With a 900 BB tho cuz I'm not quite bright enough to leave crap stock. lol
Well played sir! Not that I missed the concept where you drop it off; I even eluded to it, although it didn't seem worth detailing. If packing gas floats your boat, knock yourself out, of course. Just not worth it to me. From now on though, I'm asking every guy I see with tunnel tanks if the main tank is five gallons; should make for interesting conversation.I don't have a dog in this fight but your choice of words caught my eye.
It becomes less of an uphill battle when you can drop a fuel can at the bottom of a hill versus having a bigger tank
If you pack gas, you're not packing it all day long. You drop it off and go ride. Pick it up on the way back and fill up so you can make it back to the truck. That's kinda implied I thought....
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I think its completely awesome what Burandt puts together and totally get what he's saying about it basically being something of an R&D project ... But, unless you are independently wealthy with a metric f*ckton of disposable income, you are wasting your money paying that much money for a snowmobile these days.
I mean really, with what you can do on a stock and/or slightly modded factory turbo these days, 99% of the people buying snowmobiles will never be able to "out ride" that sled ... and maybe 1% of the people who ride would be able to use a sled like that to the fullest, and of that 1% maybe 1% of the original 1% could afford to pay somebody to build that for them without going broke, sooooo ...For the rest of us, what type of riding experience are you really gaining paying $67k for that sled vs. the $20-22k you're paying for a 'factory' sled? Is the riding experience really worth that much more money? i kinda question if it is ...
I mean its cool yeah, but IMO what the entire industry needs right now are videos showing what cool things you can do with CHEAP sleds ... Used sleds from 10 years ago .... to get more people into it. Because with current sled prices, the OEMs and dealers are pricing themselves right out of business IMO.
I mean really, with what you can do on a stock and/or slightly modded factory turbo these days, 99% of the people buying snowmobiles will never be able to "out ride" that sled ... and maybe 1% of the people who ride would be able to use a sled like that to the fullest, and of that 1% maybe 1% of the original 1% could afford to pay somebody to build that for them without going broke, sooooo ...For the rest of us, what type of riding experience are you really gaining paying $67k for that sled vs. the $20-22k you're paying for a 'factory' sled? Is the riding experience really worth that much more money? i kinda question if it is ...
I mean its cool yeah, but IMO what the entire industry needs right now are videos showing what cool things you can do with CHEAP sleds ... Used sleds from 10 years ago .... to get more people into it. Because with current sled prices, the OEMs and dealers are pricing themselves right out of business IMO.
Meh - been the story since the first sled was modified. We've been building $50+ sleds for 2 decades now. It's always been a waste of money in someone's eyes.
