INTRODUCING SNOWMOBILE BETTER BARS WITH FREE SWANK

[F-Bomb]

They are finally ready for PRIME TIME.

> 66% stronger yield rating then your weak stock running board support bars
> 33% thicker chromoly inner wall with stock outer diameter and fit
> huge cost savings over inferior and weaker OEM parts
> custom color hardcoating in stock and available at no extra charge

$199 plus shipping

Now the fun stuff...THE FREE PRODUCT GIVE AWAY!
Here is how it works...purchase your set of Snowmobile Better Bars for your Polaris IQ RAW chassis (all 2007-2010 IQ RAW sleds RMK or Assault) from our website www.snowmobilebetterboards.com or at the product launch during the World Championship Snowmobile Hillclimb in Jackson this week and we will randomly select TWO winners that will get the full purchase price refunded. IE YOU GET FREE SWANK! HOLD ON as here is the incentive to ACT NOW. If you buy your Better Bars before April 1, 2010 your name is entered 10 times in the drawing. We draw April 15th so increase your odds ten fold by acting immediately!
(offer is exclusively for retail consumers only...dealers and distributors do not qualify for participation)

 

[EricW]

Congrats on another great product. Count me in for a black set for son #2. This should be a solid test cuz he can bend a brick. Maybe you could fab up a set for me with those hard rubber loading dock bumpers along the sides just to be environmentally friendly to all the passing trees. lol.

Congrats again Rob, lots of head scratching I bet. EW

 

[kenairmk]

I just bought a set of your boards and will install them in a couple days. Thanks for going where the manufacturer did'nt.


Mike

 

[F-Bomb]

Thanks guys! We appreciate all of your business and we promise to keep bringing in the "best of the best" for your sled AND MINE!@

Eric..560 ft/lbs yield on Snowmobile Better Bars as opposed to an average of 330 on the stock bars. I contemplated seriously putting one side only with the Better Bars for Jackson so people can actually step down on the foot bed and "FEEL" how much more solid these are. BUT I didn't because I'm lazy and that sled is my personal rider and I want the BEST when I ride. Also note we make a HD (heavy duty) version of Better Boards that are amazing when combined with the chromoly bars. That would be as good as you can do for bullet proof on sleds. Here is that deal.......

Gang when you tie these in with the 2010 version of Better Boards the strength, foot traction, and snow clearing is absolutely unparalleled. I can hardly even ride a stocker anymore as these are THAT MUCH BETTER. Even when I rode the improved 2011 Pro-RMK during the Polaris demo I still smiled because our product WAY outperforms the stocker both in traction and in snow clearing. Wait and see!

Now the other un-spoken question that must be addressed. How badly will Better Bars and Better Boards KILL the competition in both strength and DeEEEEEeeeeeeEEEEP snow performance on your RMK? (actually we already know the answer BECAUSE WE TEST but I thought I might draw out a sucker and make some extra spending money and have some SnoWest fun!) How far is a "country mile" in sled terms? Anchors away! Braaap Brap

 

[EricW]

Rob, Are the HD Boards the same basic size (length x width) as the ones we have now. What I'm wondering is can I pull Kam's current Boards and use them for a drilling template for the HD Boards so i hit the existing holes in the sled? I hope that makes sense. If not, I'm sure I could drill from under the sled. Have you done the replacement to HD from standard boards? Any issues? If it's a clean swap, I'll do both. Thanks again man. EW

 

[F-Bomb]

Eric,
The base pattern is exactly the same we just use a thicker material and if he doesn't have the 2010 version of our Better Boards for 0069 (Polaris IQ RAW 155-163) then he will get added strength value in the newest design as well. We've done three versions of thickness' but the stock and one notch heavier or HD is the best. The third is pretty rediculous! Once again combine all factors of the heavier duty Better Bars and the new (much improved both in performance and strength) version of HD Better Boards for his model and he'll be all set.

Now you've kind of hit on the number one reason we don't pre-drill our product. Once things have been ridden and wowed around it's impossible to have things realign when you need to replace product. This is a wearable item that has a ride life and must be replaced over time. Not to mention that guys regularly cross sleds and parts need to be interchangable without a major cost rebuilt.

Simply remove his existing Better Boards replace the outer bars with Better Bars (that should realign some of the wow prior to resetting new boards)...lay the new HD 0069B in place and drill back up through your existing rivet holes. Also note if you've cut cross beams as opposed to one large space get rid of those as well. They add nothing in strength and can cause play that is adverse. Make sure the footbed is solid and flat against the Better Boards prior to re-riveting (hammer the foot bed lip up to level for fit if you need to so that you don't force the boards to bend with the rivet pulling).

The add says for Assault but the custom HD part number 0069(B) product qualifies as well. Very similar basic design just some differences in the back because of the larger suspension bracket on the Assault versus the IQ RAW RMK.

 

[EricW]

Combo has been ordered, can't wait. Web ordering worked great and was a snap to use even for those of us who are key board chasllenged.....EW

 

[mountainhorse]

I saw them at Jackson Hole yesterday and again on Dan Adams sled last night in the shop... very nice parts. The HD boards are much more rigid.

Rob puts a lot of effort into his parts and the quality is very nice.. top notch Pow coat too.

 

[otterpoo]

So... Will these be available for the 900's. It would be a pretty sweet addition to keep me on my sled and not bruised up.

 

[F-Bomb]

Sorry not for the 900. Can't really run coolant through these plus there arent attachment points built into that sled like the RAW IQ! Guys are customizing the regular IQ chassis with Better Boards for the IQ RAW and that is a neat mod but it doesn't address the cooling or change the strength. These bolt on to the factory hoop and rear tunnel support bracket just like stock.

Now on the 900 we can add tunnel support scallops to Better Boards for additional support because that tunnel will accept riveted base connections without failures. If someone would like to do the RAW IQ style mod on their REGULAR IQ I'll custom make you a high scallop tunnel support to go with it. That would be a cool deal. I have a stock 06 IQ that we picked up to play with on this concept. Once the snow is gone I'll tear it apart and give it a try. Keep your eye out on this forum and you'll see the process.

Now back to biz! One more super cool added benefit to the Better Bars. HOLY STIFF CHASSIS! The results of a stiffening from front to back is that this already awesome handling setup just got that much quicker. That was a nice benie that I didn't expect. The plan was simply stronger, prettier, and less money then stock. What we got was actually that PLUS "SLIGHTLY" BETTER performance! YEA

 

[thefullmonte]

Definitally a product that the IQ chassis needs. The stockers bend and crease like paper. Nice work!

 

[guidoxpress]

Now on the 900 we can add tunnel support scallops to Better Boards for additional support because that tunnel will accept riveted base connections without failures. If someone would like to do the RAW IQ style mod on their REGULAR IQ I'll custom make you a high scallop tunnel support to go with it. That would be a cool deal. I have a stock 06 IQ that we picked up to play with on this concept. Once the snow is gone I'll tear it apart and give it a try. Keep your eye out on this forum and you'll see the process.

OH YES ROB!!!

That would be SWEET...i would be down for 2-3 sets of these for sure...i have your better boards on all 3 of the sleds...05 900, 06 900, 06 700..

if the price was right, and you could make WIDE running boards for the 05-06 700/900...i know ALOT of guys that would be interested..

of coarse price is key..but with your products...we all know price/craftsmanship/fitment and customer support will be WAY more imp in the long run...

I cant wait to see if you come out with them...OH YEH...

 

[rmk2112]

Now on the 900 we can add tunnel support scallops to Better Boards for additional support because that tunnel will accept riveted base connections without failures. If someone would like to do the RAW IQ style mod on their REGULAR IQ I'll custom make you a high scallop tunnel support to go with it. That would be a cool deal. I have a stock 06 IQ that we picked up to play with on this concept. Once the snow is gone I'll tear it apart and give it a try. Keep your eye out on this forum and you'll see the process.

Oh, Hell yeah!!!, I'm down for a set..... BUT I would have to get a set on my sled and have pictures before you allow a set to go to Guidoxpress. That would drive him crazy.
He's always copying everything I do anyways.

 

[guidoxpress]

Oh, Hell yeah!!!, I'm down for a set..... BUT I would have to get a set on my sled and have pictures before you allow a set to go to Guidoxpress. That would drive him crazy.
He's always copying everything I do anyways.

LMAO..

sorry to hijack Rob...but i will pay you double to have them first, lol....jk..

pick me, pick me...

 

[rmk2112]

Shhh, Guidoxpress


Very cool products F-Bomb.
As always, top design, top quality, TOP NOTCH!

 

[F-Bomb]

Sweet a live auction! I can see my prototypical design costs shrinking by the minute! Rest easy boys...this summer I'll come up with something cool for your IQ's.

FYI..Our Snowmobile Better Boards/Bars private testing grounds are being TOTALLY DUMPED ON. Rode in a total white out blizzard yesterday and couldn't see JACK but it was still awesome RIDING! It's dumping again right now as I look out of the window and watch. Deep pow pow testing scheduled for MONDAY with some sunshine. Wish you were all here! The stiff bars continue to be a really nice surprise!

 

[gerrman]

Now back to biz! One more super cool added benefit to the Better Bars. HOLY STIFF CHASSIS! The results of a stiffening from front to back is that this already awesome handling setup just got that much quicker. That was a nice benie that I didn't expect. The plan was simply stronger, prettier, and less money then stock. What we got was actually that PLUS "SLIGHTLY" BETTER performance! YEA

Rob....Thinking of a set of bars. Love the BBoard's I installed this season. Question on the added stiffness. Is the feel similar to the 2011? Was able to only stand on one here(no ECU in machine) and the bars/boards on it felt nicer than my 2009's. I go 250 geared up and I know when I weight shift etc that there is flex in the 2009 bars. Would your new bars basically eliminate that flex?

 

[F-Bomb]

Answer YES

The combo of chromoly and our boards "feel" stiffer on the IQ RAW chassis then the stock PRO-RMK. The foundation of both is pretty impressive. Several hundred people got to stand on both of our demonstrators at Jackson and there is a very obvious increase in the stiffness of the entire vehicle. Now the play or flex is in the suspension not in the chassis or running boards. The result is the sled is now quicker to reaction when ridden. It's a nice benefit that is beyond what we were going for by design and market needs. Now also note that if you simply install Better Boards you will experience a higher level of stiffness on the IQ RAW. It's not as blaring as with the bars but it is more firm.

You can put force on the stock pro-rmk and feel that there is a relief or flex and at similar force is weaker and more flexible then our chromoly Better Bars with Better Boards. Wether they will suffer a yield or permanently distorted bend depends on the the type of force and at what pressure.

There is a yield ratio related to each type of metal that is the point when the bars "yield" past the elasticity ratio and won't come back to their original shape. The part's elasticity can also be affected by design. With common 4130 chromoly it's an average of 63,000 psi (heat, chemical and manufacturing processes can effect this ratio) and with most common forms of aluminum alloys used in 6061 motorsports applications it's 40,000 psi. There are other alloys of aluminum that offer much higher yields common in the aircraft industry. I don't know what alluminum alloy Polaris will spec for the 2011 sled's outer support bars. I've looked at the cutout sample and it has a cross beam support within the tubing for additional strength. We also don't know what the yield point is yet either.

 

[gerrman]

Your explanation Rob brought back a lot of memory's from a Materials Testing course back in the day of university when I was in the shop teacher program. That was a long time ago though. The BBars will be a go. I am sure my BBoards that I have will work out just fine. Bought them last fall from Holz. Look forward to the BBars for next season. Thanks.

 

[EricW]

Answer YES

The combo of chromoly and our boards "feel" stiffer on the IQ RAW chassis then the stock PRO-RMK. The foundation of both is pretty impressive. Several hundred people got to stand on both of our demonstrators at Jackson and there is a very obvious increase in the stiffness of the entire vehicle. Now the play or flex is in the suspension not in the chassis or running boards. The result is the sled is now quicker to reaction when ridden. It's a nice benefit that is beyond what we were going for by design and market needs. Now also note that if you simply install Better Boards you will experience a higher level of stiffness on the IQ RAW. It's not as blaring as with the bars but it is more firm.

You can put force on the stock pro-rmk and feel that there is a relief or flex and at similar force is weaker and more flexible then our chromoly Better Bars with Better Boards. Wether they will suffer a yield or permanently distorted bend depends on the the type of force and at what pressure.

There is a yield ratio related to each type of metal that is the point when the bars "yield" past the elasticity ratio and won't come back to their original shape. The part's elasticity can also be affected by design. With common 4130 chromoly it's an average of 63,000 psi (heat, chemical and manufacturing processes can effect this ratio) and with most common forms of aluminum alloys used in 6061 motorsports applications it's 40,000 psi. There are other alloys of aluminum that offer much higher yields common in the aircraft industry. I don't know what alluminum alloy Polaris will spec for the 2011 sled's outer support bars. I've looked at the cutout sample and it has a cross beam support within the tubing for additional strength. We also don't know what the yield point is yet either.

Ya thats a great bunch of technical stuff, but more importantly, did I win any free stuff yet? lol.

Got the goods a few days ago, I'll be installing early next week with pics. Thanks again. EW