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Interesting....New Yammie

Oh, I love these rumors! Last time I heard Yamaha was producing a Turbo, they came out with the XTX. Wow! It changed my life! :rolleyes: That's why I'm riding a M8.

I heard from my third cousin's roommate in college that talked to a guy in a mexican jail that Yamaha HAS an Apex/Nytro mix sled with the Apex motor producing 180+ ponies (naturally) and would weight 485 lbs. If it's true, I will put cash down right NOW!
 
i heard a bigger carb and floats for the bravo!!! every year around this time everybody hears something. whats that?.....i think i heard another rumor no wait i farted.
 
So they're replacing the Nytro with the old Bravo on the race curcit! Brilliant! They will finally be competitive.

I said this last year, how come I can take a bunch of after market stuff and drop 100lbs off an Apex, but Yamaha has done nothing....actually made it HEAVIER! So their solution is to make an under-powered and HEAVY Nytro. Is it possible for Yamaha to create a 485lbs and 180HP 4-stroke mountain sled? YES! So why don't they? They would dominate the market....good-bye Ski-dung! How can a dumb hillbilly from Idaho figure this out, but an executive in Japan can't?

I'll be hangout with the Arctic Cat guys until they do....see ya!

i heard a bigger carb and floats for the bravo!!!
 
I hope they build a ground up mountain sled cause this totally rebuilding a trail based sled and putting it on a 100 lb diet to make it work in the mountains is getting a little old. There is no reason they can't build a proper mountain chassis right out of the shute, I'd gladly pay they extra dough to save the time and trouble in the end, but they clearly do not understand the mountain market at all. The Nytro is a prime example, if they had tested it properly in the first place they would have known the 08 was a total turd (ie: crap track, crap suspension, crap tunnel, heavy as hell) and built it like the 2010 in back in 08, instead everyone out there gets to be the R&D department and 3 years later they fix it. C'mon I mean really do we think this new sled will be any different? I'm not making that mistake again somebody else can work out the bugs this time around. All these "Reviews" to date are trail riders so I guess we'll see but sounds like the same old plan, but hey maybe they'll have a sweet new vid with a chick in new clothes pointing at stuff on the sled and hyping us all up. LOL

M5

Well said !
 
Yeah they just don't get it..yammi really needs to take the design team from the new wr450 and let them build a sled !!!

So they can build a 220 lb wicked fast super dirt bike buit not a 450 lb 200 hp sled???? ARGHHHHHHHHHH :D:):o:(:confused::mad::eek:...:beer;:beer;
 
Here is what i know

What i know about big companies is that the people making the decisions don't really even hear us and they really don't even hear the dealers!!! Which i know is very sad but it is the simple truth??? The only thing they (yamaha corp) respond to is unit sales and the competion. So the only thing that will change things is poor sales. Some of the good aftermarket companies (companies that build boost products)insert your favorite here are the only thing that has kept yamaha legitimate in the mountains!!! So lets not get our hopes up. I do believe they make the highest quality sleds!!!! But maybe we would accept something a little less for better performance? The only company that has more enginering might than yamaha is probably ski dont but i dont like that choice either.
Sorry for the long post guys
ps.....and yes i do have a fair amount of experience with large national companies i do speak from experience!! :):)
 
Sounds like an apex starter, doesnt look rider forward, not happy!
 
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Its for the flatlanders might have factory boost but it will be a sled for the easteners thats where all the sales are..
Cat and Polaris have had a factory turboed trail sled for sometime already yammi had to step up..
 
What i know about big companies is that the people making the decisions don't really even hear us and they really don't even hear the dealers!!! Which i know is very sad but it is the simple truth??? The only thing they (yamaha corp) respond to is unit sales and the competion. So the only thing that will change things is poor sales. Some of the good aftermarket companies (companies that build boost products)insert your favorite here are the only thing that has kept yamaha legitimate in the mountains!!! So lets not get our hopes up. I do believe they make the highest quality sleds!!!! But maybe we would accept something a little less for better performance? The only company that has more enginering might than yamaha is probably ski dont but i dont like that choice either.
Sorry for the long post guys
ps.....and yes i do have a fair amount of experience with large national companies i do speak from experience!! :):)

In some respects I would have to both agree and disagree. We can rant on the internet all day long and while the corporations may or may not have spies lurking around we do not know. I had bought my wife a 2007 Phazer MTX in hopes of going all 4 stroke. In our eyes (especially hers) the thing was a turd. I usually don't write letters to companies, however this time I did, explaining what I thought the short comings were and left it at that feeling that I had vented and never expected to recieve any response. Almost a week to the day later I had a phone call on my cell phone from the Corp. Office in California, a guy from Yamaha wanting to talk to me! We talked for about 45 minutes to an hour about the type of riding we do and what I thought could be done different with the Phazer. He wanted to know what we replaced it with (2007 RMK 600 HO 155) and how we liked it. I didn't hack on him about it. He thanked me and that was that. I felt pretty good about the thought that my letter had actually mattered. I think that if more people actually wrote an old fashioned letter (using actual paper!) with some honest constructive thoughts they will be heard. Now knowing the way R&D and all that works we won't see it changed over night or the following year, but we could make a difference. It is my understanding (from my old Honda dealer) that companies like Honda and Yamaha have products out that won't be released for up to 4 years or more. As far as legitimate mountain sleds the two I have go everywhere I want them to go and several the competitions won't.....like back to the truck! FOCKER OUT!
 
I don't think you will find anyone who slags the engines hence getting back to the truck but the chassis is my gripe. There is no legitmate reason in my mind why any company should be making drop brackets as an example out of steel (the list goes on and on). Yami is the only company that does it instead they waste money making header pipes out of Ti to save 2 lbs and putting floats on the front to save another 2 lbs all a significant cost when the true weight savings are right there under their noses, but the thing is on a trail sled it doesn't matter so much about the weight and its cheaper to build, so what do we get stuck with? I hope they got their heads out of the sand this time around and built a real mountain sled but in truth I'm not optimistic. It's going to take a lot more than a 180 hp 4 banger to get my $$ again cause like I said before the engine has never been the issue, otherwise I'll just keep the modded sleds I have.

M5
 
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