I have been looking for an electric start for my wifes 07 600 sdi, and I have managed to come across a used one, but he doesnt have any instructions? Does anyone have some laying arround? Thanks.
Instructions?
- Thread starter doober
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nobody knows where to get some?
TROUBLESHOOTING
When the ignition switch is turned on or the start
button is pressed, a signal is sent to the starting
solenoid. The battery then supplies current to the
starter through the starting solenoid to turn the
engine.
In case of problems, first ensure the problem is
not related to engine mechanical components. If
not, test the starting system.
Causes of problems are not necessarily related to
starter but may be due to a burnt fuse, faulty battery,
start button or ignition switch, engine cutout
switch, starting solenoid, electrical cables and
connections or the electronic module.
Check these components before removing starter.
Fuses
Make sure the charging fuse (30 A) on battery and
the MPEM fuse (5 A) on electrical harness are in
good condition. If the fuses test good, continue
with the next tests.
Battery
Refer to CHARGING SYSTEM to check battery
condition. If the test is good, continue with the
next tests.
Start/RER Button
Liquid-Cooled Engines Models
Check if the start/RER button works perfectly.
START/RER BUTTON ON VEHICLES WITH
ELECTRIC STARTER
All engines except SDI
TEST
Continuity from
start/RER button
to MPEM
Voltage
from voltage
regulator/rectifier
WIRE COLOR RED/GREY and
BEIGE
RED/GREY and
BEIGE
RESISTANCE 1.0 —
VOLTAGE —
Above battery
voltage and
below 15 volts
NOTE — —
SDI engines
TEST
Continuity from
start/RER button
to MPEM
Voltage
from voltage
regulator/rectifier
WIRE COLOR BLACK and
BLACK/BLUE
BLACK and
BLACK/BLUE
RESISTANCE 1.0 —
VOLTAGE —
Above battery
voltage and
below 15 volts
NOTE — —
If the switch functions correctly, continue with the
next tests.
Ignition Switch
Fan-Cooled Engines Models
Disconnect switch housing. Using themultimeter
FLUKE 111 (P/N 529 035 868), check between
MAG and GRD terminals if the circuit is open (O.L.)
in operating position and if it is closed (0 ) in off
position.
Engine Cut-Out Switch
Check the condition of engine cut-out switch.
When the ignition switch is turned on or the start
button is pressed, a signal is sent to the starting
solenoid. The battery then supplies current to the
starter through the starting solenoid to turn the
engine.
In case of problems, first ensure the problem is
not related to engine mechanical components. If
not, test the starting system.
Causes of problems are not necessarily related to
starter but may be due to a burnt fuse, faulty battery,
start button or ignition switch, engine cutout
switch, starting solenoid, electrical cables and
connections or the electronic module.
Check these components before removing starter.
Fuses
Make sure the charging fuse (30 A) on battery and
the MPEM fuse (5 A) on electrical harness are in
good condition. If the fuses test good, continue
with the next tests.
Battery
Refer to CHARGING SYSTEM to check battery
condition. If the test is good, continue with the
next tests.
Start/RER Button
Liquid-Cooled Engines Models
Check if the start/RER button works perfectly.
START/RER BUTTON ON VEHICLES WITH
ELECTRIC STARTER
All engines except SDI
TEST
Continuity from
start/RER button
to MPEM
Voltage
from voltage
regulator/rectifier
WIRE COLOR RED/GREY and
BEIGE
RED/GREY and
BEIGE
RESISTANCE 1.0 —
VOLTAGE —
Above battery
voltage and
below 15 volts
NOTE — —
SDI engines
TEST
Continuity from
start/RER button
to MPEM
Voltage
from voltage
regulator/rectifier
WIRE COLOR BLACK and
BLACK/BLUE
BLACK and
BLACK/BLUE
RESISTANCE 1.0 —
VOLTAGE —
Above battery
voltage and
below 15 volts
NOTE — —
If the switch functions correctly, continue with the
next tests.
Ignition Switch
Fan-Cooled Engines Models
Disconnect switch housing. Using themultimeter
FLUKE 111 (P/N 529 035 868), check between
MAG and GRD terminals if the circuit is open (O.L.)
in operating position and if it is closed (0 ) in off
position.
Engine Cut-Out Switch
Check the condition of engine cut-out switch.
ENGINE CUT-OUT SWITCH ON VEHICLE
WITH ELECTRIC STARTER
TEST Running
insulation
Continuity in
STOP position
WIRE COLOR BLACK/YELLOW
and BLACK
BLACK/YELLOW
and BLACK
RESISTANCE O.L. 00.0 to 00.5
VOLTAGE — —
NOTE
Engine cut-out
switch must be
in run position.
Engine cut-out
switch must be
in stop position.
Starting Solenoid
Ensure the solenoid receives electric current
as follows. Using the multimeter FLUKE 111
(P/N 529 035 868), measure the voltage between
the wires, indicate in the following table, when
starting the vehicle. The tether cord must be
installed.
ENGINE TYPES COLOR OF WIRES
ALL SDI ENGINES RED/GREY and
ORANGE/BLACK
ALL POWER TEK
ENGINES
RED/GREEN and
ORANGE/BLACK
ALL OTHER ENGINES RED/GREEN and BLACK
If the solenoid does not properly receive current,
the electronic module can be suspected.
If the solenoid receives current, test it as follows.
– Disconnect battery and starter cables from solenoid.
– Inspect connections and clean as necessary.
– Solenoid condition can be checked with an
ohmmeter. Install probes on large connectors
of solenoid.
– Measure the resistance when current is applied
to small connectors; if it is more than a few
ohms, replace solenoid.
If solenoid tests good, check the electric starter. If
electric starter tests good, the electronic module
can be suspected.
Electrical Cables and Connections
Check all connections, harnesses and wires.
Tighten any loose connections.
Replace any chafed wires.
If wires, harnesses and connections are good,
check the electric starter.
Electric Starter
Remove the tuned pipe and disconnect spark plug
cables.
Using booster cable, carefully supply current from
the battery directly to the starter. Connect the
BLACK cable first. Connect the remaining booster
cable from the battery then to the starter.
If the starter turns, ensure wiring harness and connectors
between battery and starter are in good
condition. If they test good, the electronic module
can be suspected.
If the starter does not turn, check for mechanical
problem in the starter.
Electronic Module
Check the MPEM condition, refer to IGNITION
SYSTEM. For SDI and Power TEK engines, refer
to ENGINE MANAGEMENT.
STARTER REMOVAL
– Disconnect BLACK (-) cable from battery.
– Disconnect RED (+) cable from battery.
WARNING
Always disconnect BLACK (-) cable first and
connect last.
– Remove tuned pipe.
– Disconnect RED cable from starter.
– Disconnect ground cable from starter.
– Remove stabilizer bar clamp to
WITH ELECTRIC STARTER
TEST Running
insulation
Continuity in
STOP position
WIRE COLOR BLACK/YELLOW
and BLACK
BLACK/YELLOW
and BLACK
RESISTANCE O.L. 00.0 to 00.5
VOLTAGE — —
NOTE
Engine cut-out
switch must be
in run position.
Engine cut-out
switch must be
in stop position.
Starting Solenoid
Ensure the solenoid receives electric current
as follows. Using the multimeter FLUKE 111
(P/N 529 035 868), measure the voltage between
the wires, indicate in the following table, when
starting the vehicle. The tether cord must be
installed.
ENGINE TYPES COLOR OF WIRES
ALL SDI ENGINES RED/GREY and
ORANGE/BLACK
ALL POWER TEK
ENGINES
RED/GREEN and
ORANGE/BLACK
ALL OTHER ENGINES RED/GREEN and BLACK
If the solenoid does not properly receive current,
the electronic module can be suspected.
If the solenoid receives current, test it as follows.
– Disconnect battery and starter cables from solenoid.
– Inspect connections and clean as necessary.
– Solenoid condition can be checked with an
ohmmeter. Install probes on large connectors
of solenoid.
– Measure the resistance when current is applied
to small connectors; if it is more than a few
ohms, replace solenoid.
If solenoid tests good, check the electric starter. If
electric starter tests good, the electronic module
can be suspected.
Electrical Cables and Connections
Check all connections, harnesses and wires.
Tighten any loose connections.
Replace any chafed wires.
If wires, harnesses and connections are good,
check the electric starter.
Electric Starter
Remove the tuned pipe and disconnect spark plug
cables.
Using booster cable, carefully supply current from
the battery directly to the starter. Connect the
BLACK cable first. Connect the remaining booster
cable from the battery then to the starter.
If the starter turns, ensure wiring harness and connectors
between battery and starter are in good
condition. If they test good, the electronic module
can be suspected.
If the starter does not turn, check for mechanical
problem in the starter.
Electronic Module
Check the MPEM condition, refer to IGNITION
SYSTEM. For SDI and Power TEK engines, refer
to ENGINE MANAGEMENT.
STARTER REMOVAL
– Disconnect BLACK (-) cable from battery.
– Disconnect RED (+) cable from battery.
WARNING
Always disconnect BLACK (-) cable first and
connect last.
– Remove tuned pipe.
– Disconnect RED cable from starter.
– Disconnect ground cable from starter.
– Remove stabilizer bar clamp to
Not sure if there is actually a set of instructions. Your skidoo dealer should be able to look on their online publications from BRP.
What do you have questions about? I had electric start on my 07 Rev 800r. I remove it and re-installed it several times. I also worked at a Dealership so i might be able to help you.
What do you have questions about? I had electric start on my 07 Rev 800r. I remove it and re-installed it several times. I also worked at a Dealership so i might be able to help you.
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1. Clamp
– Unbolt and remove starter from engine.
&D
1. Bolts to be removed
STARTER DISASSEMBLY
Before disassembling, trace index marks on
starter housing no. 10 and starter housing assembly
no. 8 to ease further assembly.
Remove starter through bolts no. 17. Separate
end frame housing no. 14 from starter housing
no. 10. Withdraw starter housing from armature
no. 11.
Brush holder no. 13 can be removed from end
frame housing no. 14 by disconnecting the end
frame attached brush from brush holder no. 13.
Check the radial play between the armature shaft
and end frame bearing. Replace the end frame
bearing or replace starter. If parts are in good condition
then coat with synthetic grease (P/N 413
711 500) before reinstalling them.
Push back the collar no. 3 using a screwdriver.
Remove snap ring no. 2. Remove collar no. 3 and
spring no. 4.
&
1. Collar
2. Snap ring
Turn starter clutch no. 6 clockwise to remove it
from armature assembly no. 11.
Pull housing from armature.
STARTER CLEANING
CAUTION: Yoke assembly and drive unit assembly
must not be immersed in cleaning solvent.
Clean brushes and holders with a clean cloth
soaked in solvent. Brushes must be dried thoroughly
with a clean cloth.
Blow brush holders clean using compressed air.
WARNING
Always wear safety glasses when using compressed
air.
Remove dirt, oil or grease from commutator using
a clean cloth soaked in suitable solvent. Dry well
using a clean and dry cloth.
Clean engine ring gear teeth and drive unit (clutch).
1. Clamp
– Unbolt and remove starter from engine.
&D
1. Bolts to be removed
STARTER DISASSEMBLY
Before disassembling, trace index marks on
starter housing no. 10 and starter housing assembly
no. 8 to ease further assembly.
Remove starter through bolts no. 17. Separate
end frame housing no. 14 from starter housing
no. 10. Withdraw starter housing from armature
no. 11.
Brush holder no. 13 can be removed from end
frame housing no. 14 by disconnecting the end
frame attached brush from brush holder no. 13.
Check the radial play between the armature shaft
and end frame bearing. Replace the end frame
bearing or replace starter. If parts are in good condition
then coat with synthetic grease (P/N 413
711 500) before reinstalling them.
Push back the collar no. 3 using a screwdriver.
Remove snap ring no. 2. Remove collar no. 3 and
spring no. 4.
&
1. Collar
2. Snap ring
Turn starter clutch no. 6 clockwise to remove it
from armature assembly no. 11.
Pull housing from armature.
STARTER CLEANING
CAUTION: Yoke assembly and drive unit assembly
must not be immersed in cleaning solvent.
Clean brushes and holders with a clean cloth
soaked in solvent. Brushes must be dried thoroughly
with a clean cloth.
Blow brush holders clean using compressed air.
WARNING
Always wear safety glasses when using compressed
air.
Remove dirt, oil or grease from commutator using
a clean cloth soaked in suitable solvent. Dry well
using a clean and dry cloth.
Clean engine ring gear teeth and drive unit (clutch).
Holy cow, lots of stuff there to read. If I need someone to point me in the right direction for install once I get it I will be posting on here. I also had someone offer to help me out on another site, so between the 2 I should be able to do it I figure. Thanks.
As it turns out that starter was for a 05 600 carbbed and wont work on my wifes, so I might have to go to the dealer and pay their 500 plus to get one.
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rev_rider800
Well-known member
The parts are very interchangeable if there is any diff at all. As for help with the kit, it is very easy to instal but trying to get help over the internet is like trying to order a tux for a wedding online if you know what I mean? A five minute phone call could do what 20 emails can't...If you need some help, feel free to give a shout, 763 238 1292
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