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I was talking to a Canadian, he said he hopes Obama gets elected................

Nobody assumed anything. No assuming necessary.

And, by education, I wasnt implying school or post secondary education. I was talking about a balanced viewpoint. Try seeing both sides to something when you can.

I dont think you are stupid. I bet you are pretty "smart". But trust me when I say, you make alot of people on here wonder sometimes. :beer;

I know you didn't mean post secondary edcuation. I understood what you meant about a balanced viewpoint. ...if I had an ignorance/pride blind on, do you think I would have admitted my wrong? I may sound passionate, but I am not so prideful that I don't have an open mind.
 
Another thing ...you say you don't have to fight for your freedom? For the most part that is true! Do you recall World War II? Yes, Canadian forces contributed, but do you think your country would be in the condition it is in today without brave Americans giving their lives to fight Hitler's and General Hideki Tojo's armies?!!!! You would be speaking German or Japanese....that may sound arrogant, but that is the damn truth!

Canada kicked some serious arse in WWII.
 
Another thing ...you say you don't have to fight for your freedom? For the most part that is true! Do you recall World War II? Yes, Canadian forces contributed, but do you think your country would be in the condition it is in today without brave Americans giving their lives to fight Hitler's and General Hideki Tojo's armies?!!!! You would be speaking German or Japanese....that may sound arrogant, but that is the damn truth!

See these are the ones to get you into trouble. Canada jumped into the war as soon as England did, we did not have to, we chose to help our brothers, we backed them up, where was the USA? are you not a colony of England as well? You only jumped in years later, why? why did it take until Japan attacked? You call this brave? You call this helping us out?

And you know what, as big of a pounding England took by the German air force while you sat back, they never gave up, so no, without US intervention, I still dont think we would be speaking german, the war would have been longer, but we would have won out. You are acting like you won the war on your own, maybe learn some real facts.
 
See these are the ones to get you into trouble. Canada jumped into the war as soon as England did, we did not have to, we chose to help our brothers, we backed them up, where was the USA? are you not a colony of England as well? You only jumped in years later, why? why did it take until Japan attacked? You call this brave? You call this helping us out?

And you know what, as big of a pounding England took by the German air force while you sat back, they never gave up, so no, without US intervention, I still dont think we would be speaking german, the war would have been longer, but we would have won out. You are acting like you won the war on your own, maybe learn some real facts.

Yes, Canada, along with the rest of the British Empire and Commonwealth made huge contributions to the war...especially early on. We were not part of the Commonwealth...we didn't need the Brit's pocket book. Canada and the US's relations became closer during the war and even more after because British influence was reduced in Canada. No we are not a colony of England...do you recall the American Revolution? We refused to be occupied by England. ...and it was in 1939 Britain, France, Australia, Canada and New Zealand declared war on Germany...the US entered the war in 1941. Yes not until Pearl Harbor. The USSR and the USA rose as superpowers (there was also reference to the big three- USA, USSR, and Great Britain)...no I do not think the war would have been won without the US. Germany and its allies were one hell of a force. There are just too many pivotal points in the war that are directly attributed to American troops...especially D-Day and Midway. However, Canada did hit all there objectives on D-Day! Good on ya! Canadian forces definitely contributed and had a significant impact....definitely during the Battle of Ortona also. However my opinion is...without American forces...no you would not be the country you are today.

I think the Axis definitely had the momentum before the US entered. The Axis had defeated Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, The Netherlands and France by 1940....thus controlling most of Europe. In 1941 the Axis had inflicted great damage on Britain in the Battle of Britain and had invaded deeply into the USSR. In 1942 the Japanese had taken the Philippines, captured a Canadian force at Hong Kong and other British colonies.

In 1942 the Allies developed a plan to test the German forces along the coast of France...this raid was supposed to take pressure off the Soviets, gather information about Germans and return safely...it was a disaster. Canadian troops stormed the beach...this was Canada's first major offensive. Although the mission was a failure the Allies got a first view of German defenses on the French coast....and this information would later be used.
The Allies learned from this mess, so when the Allies attacked Normandy it was a success.

No the US did not win the war on it's own...that is not what I meant. Canada made a tremendous committment with guns, ammo, air force, and ground troops. About one million Canadians served in the war in some capacity....I think your population was about 12 million then....so yes that was one hell of a contribution. I don't doubt that and never will. I also didn't mean to act like we were your saviour. My point is that I strongly believe much of this world would be under different rule if the US had not been there. I don't have a problem with Canadians regarding this point...just the France...they are thankless. I didn't understand the comment, "we have never had to defend our freedom." Yes you have...and the Canada/US relationship has become stronger because of it. We owe gratitude to Canada for their contrubution in the war as well as you do with us...just meaning it is two ways here.
 
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thats fair enough, I am not going to go into history, I am just tired of the old retoric "well we saved you *** in WW2" I hear it alot, because to be quite honest, no one saved anyones ***, the allies came together to defeat them TOGETHER, no one country saved anyones ***, if the US did not get involved and just sat back and watched, and the germans did in fact defeat the allies, and were now controlling Canadian boundries as you suggested, you would have the massive german empire, and the japanese empire, against the USA, all on its lonesome, now how close this war was with all allies involved, can you honestly tell me you think the USA could have taken them on by themselves? and won? so in reality, you saved you own asses.

One more point to think about, you keep saying about how the world would be under a different rule if it was not for the US, that may be true, however the same can be said with other countries, what if England didnt get involved? well the world might be under different rule, what if Russia was not invaded? well the world might be under different rule, what if ancient rome never existed....
 
thats fair enough, I am not going to go into history, I am just tired of the old retoric "well we saved you *** in WW2" I hear it alot, because to be quite honest, no one saved anyones ***, the allies came together to defeat them TOGETHER, no one country saved anyones ***, if the US did not get involved and just sat back and watched, and the germans did in fact defeat the allies, and were now controlling Canadian boundries as you suggested, you would have the massive german empire, and the japanese empire, against the USA, all on its lonesome, now how close this war was with all allies involved, can you honestly tell me you think the USA could have taken them on by themselves? and won? so in reality, you saved you own asses.

One more point to think about, you keep saying about how the world would be under a different rule if it was not for the US, that may be true, however the same can be said with other countries, what if England didnt get involved? well the world might be under different rule, what if Russia was not invaded? well the world might be under different rule, what if ancient rome never existed....

If the US just sat back, ya we would have ****ed ourselves for sure or even if we just defended our homefront and not gone overseas...we would have ****ed ourselves. Yes, if the Brits or Ruskies didn't get involved we all may be under a different rule also. The strongest of the big three? Well I am sure you know my opinion! ;) :beer; ....and cheers to Canada for kicking some German/Japanese/Italian ***!
 
Another thing ...you say you don't have to fight for your freedom? For the most part that is true! Do you recall World War II? Yes, Canadian forces contributed, but do you think your country would be in the condition it is in today without brave Americans giving their lives to fight Hitler's and General Hideki Tojo's armies?!!!! You would be speaking German or Japanese....that may sound arrogant, but that is the damn truth!


Canada's poplution is less than the popluation of California!!!!! What the heck do you expect from us.....??? I'd say we've put up more than 1/50th of the Fight, Cost and Loss of brave men and women fighting for freedom!!!!

Get off your Soap Box!!!!!!
 
Canada's poplution is less than the popluation of California!!!!! What the heck do you expect from us.....??? I'd say we've put up more than 1/50th of the Fight, Cost and Loss of brave men and women fighting for freedom!!!!

Get off your Soap Box!!!!!!

Wow did you not read my previous posts!!!!??? Maybe you should before you speak!
 
Well I mean again, it goes both ways, and if it has not gone through it must mean our system is working, although it may need some tweaking, did you hear about the proven innocent canadian citizen that the US government sent overseas to get tortured in Syria? Or how about innocent people being wire tapped under the patriot act? Dosnt sound like much freedom there either, we can both dig up tons of evidence to support both calls, all I am saying is its happening on both sides, Canada gets unfairly labelled as being soft, but we don't have to sell the war on terror to the world like the US does, it does alot more than alot of you Americans know, you hear the bad about us, but not about the good.

I respect your views but I wasnt trying to start a t*t for tat. I saw a couple of responses from the Canadiens that said....we have the same freedoms as you,then I thought of Steyn's problems. I'd be curious to know if it was big news up there? In certain circles down here it most certainly was. One little decision by the Canadien human rights commision and it becomes precident.

As much bad news as the patriot act gets it has actually worked. Maybe some FBI agent found out improperly that Mary is getting her boobs done but as I understand the law the call or corespondence has to be going from/to the US to the part of the world were the bad guys hang out.

People are not perfect and make mistakes, I hope that Canadien citizen you spoke of has filed suit and gets compensated for what happened to him but it also has to be remembered that a few thousand people died. If this was a typical story out there and tens or hundreds of people had this kindof thing happen then theres cause for all manner of future procecutions against our leaders. They've released so-called inocents from Guantanimo sp? and they re-surfaced doing what these thugs do. I guess it's a double edged sword. The enemy and the world holds us to an impossible standard of fairness and they go about their buisness cutting people's heads off.
 
I've read enough of your post's to see that you want it both way's.... first you Slam Canadian's then you Back up and appologize......:rolleyes:

Oh God...do you want to say something meaningful? Or are you just gonna cry? Yes I am a bi-polar spouting off mother ****er!!! haha...here is my rolling of the eyes... :rolleyes: You made a point that I had already acknowledged (and you thought I hadn't) way before you chimed in!
 
Oh God...do you want to say something meaningful? Or are you just gonna cry? Yes I am a bi-polar spouting off mother ****er!!! haha...here is my rolling of the eyes... :rolleyes: You made a point that I had already acknowledged (and you thought I hadn't) way before you chimed in!



Your a typical loud mouthed american that the rest of the world can't stand!!!!

Happy???
 
I respect your views but I wasnt trying to start a t*t for tat. I saw a couple of responses from the Canadiens that said....we have the same freedoms as you,then I thought of Steyn's problems. I'd be curious to know if it was big news up there? In certain circles down here it most certainly was. One little decision by the Canadien human rights commision and it becomes precident.

As much bad news as the patriot act gets it has actually worked. Maybe some FBI agent found out improperly that Mary is getting her boobs done but as I understand the law the call or corespondence has to be going from/to the US to the part of the world were the bad guys hang out.

People are not perfect and make mistakes, I hope that Canadien citizen you spoke of has filed suit and gets compensated for what happened to him but it also has to be remembered that a few thousand people died. If this was a typical story out there and tens or hundreds of people had this kindof thing happen then theres cause for all manner of future procecutions against our leaders. They've released so-called inocents from Guantanimo sp? and they re-surfaced doing what these thugs do. I guess it's a double edged sword. The enemy and the world holds us to an impossible standard of fairness and they go about their buisness cutting people's heads off.

Thats fair enough, I too was not going for a tit for tat, just showcasing the fact that neither countries are perfect, nor ever will be, but its darn close compared to others, we do what we have to do to survive and flourish, as well as have the freedoms we all enjoy, its a tough one to balance. That story did make news up here, and did cause an uproar, I was quite upset, and there has been more you probly have not heard about, but the bottom line is nothing has gone through, and the day it does the true patriotic everyday GENUINE Canadian will stand up to stop it, we share alot of similar views, just different on how to go about it. What I find unfair with the US media alot is they like to focus on negative stories, you always here about the bad we are doing, and how soft we are, but there is never reports about the good we are doing. Alot of Americans are uneducated on the commitment and losses we have undertaken in afghanistan, the money we have spent developing new technologies to fight terrorism, quite frankly we don't have the manpower to do what the USA is doing to combat terrorism, whether I agree with it or not. I accept the fact that Canada is not important to the everyday American, I understand it, you have bigger fish to fry, but we are sometimes labelled in a really unfair light by your media, about the only time I see a story on any of the major news stations in the USA is when we do something stupid, which I admit happens, and then alot of Americans buy into it without realizing the good we are doing far outweighs the bad.
 
Your a typical loud mouthed american that the rest of the world can't stand!!!!

Happy???

Oh I see your still crying and resulted to name calling because you have nothing meaningful to say. You need a pacifier?
 
Thats fair enough, I too was not going for a tit for tat, just showcasing the fact that neither countries are perfect, nor ever will be, but its darn close compared to others, we do what we have to do to survive and flourish, as well as have the freedoms we all enjoy, its a tough one to balance. That story did make news up here, and did cause an uproar, I was quite upset, and there has been more you probly have not heard about, but the bottom line is nothing has gone through, and the day it does the true patriotic everyday GENUINE Canadian will stand up to stop it, we share alot of similar views, just different on how to go about it. What I find unfair with the US media alot is they like to focus on negative stories, you always here about the bad we are doing, and how soft we are, but there is never reports about the good we are doing. Alot of Americans are uneducated on the commitment and losses we have undertaken in afghanistan, the money we have spent developing new technologies to fight terrorism, quite frankly we don't have the manpower to do what the USA is doing to combat terrorism, whether I agree with it or not. I accept the fact that Canada is not important to the everyday American, I understand it, you have bigger fish to fry, but we are sometimes labelled in a really unfair light by your media, about the only time I see a story on any of the major news stations in the USA is when we do something stupid, which I admit happens, and then alot of Americans buy into it without realizing the good we are doing far outweighs the bad.

Well then thats two of us that dont care for the American media or just media in general.

The feeling of anger cannot be understated when yours and our guy's sacrafice isnt noticed or cared about. I'm sorry to say, I feel hate when people talk over these people's contributions.
 
Thats fair enough, I too was not going for a tit for tat, just showcasing the fact that neither countries are perfect, nor ever will be, but its darn close compared to others, we do what we have to do to survive and flourish, as well as have the freedoms we all enjoy, its a tough one to balance. That story did make news up here, and did cause an uproar, I was quite upset, and there has been more you probly have not heard about, but the bottom line is nothing has gone through, and the day it does the true patriotic everyday GENUINE Canadian will stand up to stop it, we share alot of similar views, just different on how to go about it. What I find unfair with the US media alot is they like to focus on negative stories, you always here about the bad we are doing, and how soft we are, but there is never reports about the good we are doing. Alot of Americans are uneducated on the commitment and losses we have undertaken in afghanistan, the money we have spent developing new technologies to fight terrorism, quite frankly we don't have the manpower to do what the USA is doing to combat terrorism, whether I agree with it or not. I accept the fact that Canada is not important to the everyday American, I understand it, you have bigger fish to fry, but we are sometimes labelled in a really unfair light by your media, about the only time I see a story on any of the major news stations in the USA is when we do something stupid, which I admit happens, and then alot of Americans buy into it without realizing the good we are doing far outweighs the bad.

That makes a lot of sense....and I too cannot stand the media period.
 
Well I guess we all read different history books then…Don’t get me wrong but I think the US is the best neighbour to have and the US military is strong and helped other countries acquire they’re rights and freedoms but as for talking German…it was not the Canadians or the US who stopped them in WW2 it was the Russians, and I am not being biased as no Russian blood in me, other than Vodka!!! Am I wrong??? Please enlighten me then…:beer;
 
Guys, the media thing works both ways. The CANADIAN liberal good for nothing media also has a bad habit of painting everything AMERICAN with a bad brush. Ole Georgie bush, while much like our previous leader, is a babbling idiot at times, but all in all, does a pretty decent job. I question the reasons, the REAL reasons for the war in Iraq, but I dont question the resolve of the American military, and the people. They are just like our military folk. They are doing a job, and doing it very well, for the right reasons.

Because the US chooses to do some pretty tough jobs, they often get coined the "Big Bully" but the big guy on the block ALWAYS will. Even if they do good, it will be shunned by some. Its human nature to desire what others have.

MPS, see.... when you dont rant off on a tangent about things that arent true, you make alot of sense. Nicely done, and worded on the last post. As for the original post, about the meathead wanting Obama elected... I totally agree with you, in that I think its the WRONG way for the US to be heading. As the old saying goes, the minute we pound our guns into plow shears, is the minute we plow for someone else. :beer;
 
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