HPS Can Pushing pipe into carbon Cross support
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I don't know anything about this problem. However, I question what advantage that you think that the can gives you. It is probably louder (BAD), probably lighter (MARGINALLY) and probably does not make more horsepower (PROBABLY LESS). For my money, I would take it off and put the stock one back on. They work great, are not that heavy, are reasonably quiet, and they make good power.
I am sure this not what you wanted to hear but I felt the need to say it. My dealer (very reputable) does not recommend replacing the stock can. If they thought that it was an advantage, they would recommend it. It is your money but I would take it off, put it back in the box, and return it with a refund request. Carbon fiber is a great material but excess heat is a bad thing for it. Why take the risk for a little different sound, a little less weight and nothing else?
I am sure this not what you wanted to hear but I felt the need to say it. My dealer (very reputable) does not recommend replacing the stock can. If they thought that it was an advantage, they would recommend it. It is your money but I would take it off, put it back in the box, and return it with a refund request. Carbon fiber is a great material but excess heat is a bad thing for it. Why take the risk for a little different sound, a little less weight and nothing else?
One of the guys I ride with did have this happen with an HPS can on a '13 Pro. He returned it and ended up going with a GGB can that is a perfect fit. So it isn't just you.
I have an HPS on my '13 and it fits fine. Sounds great. I'd call them and tell them about the problem. I'm sure Scott at HPS will help you out.
Eric, if you want real weight loss spray your sled with some Ultra Ever Dry. For less than $200 for 42 sf it seems like the next best thing since sliced bread. Just wonder about durability. I'll see here in a few weeks. But hoping I kiss all that ice buildup goodbye
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HPS website is hpsusa.net you can get their phone number on that site.
Its not the actual carbon fiber overstructure tube that is melting. It is the plastic clamp that goes around the tube that the coil packs attach too. Not thay big of deal in my opinion as it shouldn't effect it in an adverse way. Just ride it.
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Im sorry but i feel like 7 lbs is a big difference as well as the 3-6 hp gain. Not to me other aftermarket updates you can do to loose 7 lbs. Talk to Scott at HPS and everything is great. Mine is barely melted the plastic and not a big deal. This is a very rare finding and i won't be taken it off for all the pros it offers! It is lighter, it does add hp!
Thanks Scott!!!
Thanks Scott!!!
I don't suppose verifying the weight difference is very difficult. However, the power difference is another story. I would want to see a multiple run dyno test using two identical sleds with the stock muffler on each one of them and the HPS can on each one of them to verify the horsepower claims. I just don't buy it.
Jaredg, your quote was nonsensical. Do you want to get shut out of riding areas? Maybe that isn't a problem in Alaska but we face it all of the time in the Lower 48 states. Why aggravate the situation by making a lot more noise? Particularly for a very questionable power gain? Anyway that you cut it, loud sleds are not good for our sport. I have had all types of mod motors including a turbo. They were louder than stock but they made a lot more power too. The current crop of sleds run damn well from the manufacturer, especially if you compare them to 10 year old technology. On top of that, you can get a lighter can from some aftermarket manufacturers that is not louder than stock. These manufacturers are responsible enough to build a product that is lighter. They don't make unsubstantiated claims of more power from using their product unless you couple it with other changes (pipe, head, fuel controller, etc.). The fuel injected sleds that we are now riding are set up to run with a stock pipe, muffler, etc. That is why you need a fuel controller if you change very much. Your money would be better off spent on clutching, venting, etc. My 13 with a reputable clutch kit and venting runs very well. I would venture to say that it will outperform a stock sled with an HPS can on it in the hands of the same rider. The cost to do what I did is about the same as for an HPS can too.
Jaredg, your quote was nonsensical. Do you want to get shut out of riding areas? Maybe that isn't a problem in Alaska but we face it all of the time in the Lower 48 states. Why aggravate the situation by making a lot more noise? Particularly for a very questionable power gain? Anyway that you cut it, loud sleds are not good for our sport. I have had all types of mod motors including a turbo. They were louder than stock but they made a lot more power too. The current crop of sleds run damn well from the manufacturer, especially if you compare them to 10 year old technology. On top of that, you can get a lighter can from some aftermarket manufacturers that is not louder than stock. These manufacturers are responsible enough to build a product that is lighter. They don't make unsubstantiated claims of more power from using their product unless you couple it with other changes (pipe, head, fuel controller, etc.). The fuel injected sleds that we are now riding are set up to run with a stock pipe, muffler, etc. That is why you need a fuel controller if you change very much. Your money would be better off spent on clutching, venting, etc. My 13 with a reputable clutch kit and venting runs very well. I would venture to say that it will outperform a stock sled with an HPS can on it in the hands of the same rider. The cost to do what I did is about the same as for an HPS can too.
Wut a useless response...maybe now would be a good time to lecture us about the youth of today?
Gay as the day is long buddy.
Really? OK, I think that I made it clear that I have had a lot of mod sleds. Some, if not all, of them were louder than stock. All I am saying is that you don't get much except noise and a slight weight reduction with the can on a Pro. Several years ago, you could purchase an aftermarket pipe and can for less than $500 and you did get a real power increase (after rejetting). Now, it takes a fuel controller to accomplish what you need to do to make power out of that setup. A can by itself will not make more power and will probably make less power than the stock muffler. Any reputable dealer will back me up on that claim.
I am at a loss to know what was "gay as the day is long" about my comment. Perhaps you are one of those homophobes who throws out the "gay" word so as not to arouse undue interest in their own sexual deviancy. Anyway, just because I am 60 does not give you the right to insult me. Don't mistake my age for a lack of experience and the ability to back it up.
I regularly ride with a group of very experienced backcountry riders who range in age from early 30s to early 40s. I go where they go, I climb what they climb, I hold my own. I may not be as quick as I was when I was 40 but I get there and I get back.
Spend $400 and make a lot of noise with no perceptible performance benefit. It doesn't matter to me other than possibly causing more of our riding areas to get shut down. That would p*$$ me off.
I am at a loss to know what was "gay as the day is long" about my comment. Perhaps you are one of those homophobes who throws out the "gay" word so as not to arouse undue interest in their own sexual deviancy. Anyway, just because I am 60 does not give you the right to insult me. Don't mistake my age for a lack of experience and the ability to back it up.
I regularly ride with a group of very experienced backcountry riders who range in age from early 30s to early 40s. I go where they go, I climb what they climb, I hold my own. I may not be as quick as I was when I was 40 but I get there and I get back.
Spend $400 and make a lot of noise with no perceptible performance benefit. It doesn't matter to me other than possibly causing more of our riding areas to get shut down. That would p*$$ me off.
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