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Hope Hawk Fest is as fun as last year.

Sorry.

Maybe it was you or another local who informed the lineup of our wrong doing but I recall Skip/Hawkdoggen informing most of us about staying to the tree line or riding the trail to the left if we headed out again.

With over seventy folks from all accross the continent many a disscussion about where and how each others riding is allowed.
Bad dogs, let them off their leash and it's off sniffing everything they can find.

Donations, Brent, (hope he gets on here) owner of resort informed me Sunday night that just the week before a large group about 1,100 people "Mother Earth" or something like that http://www.myspace.com/lymefest invaded and deposited among many "things":face-icon-small-blu $14,000.00, he smiled at me and said incuding the local poker run parking lot users we matched it with "70", then add the other hotels, $gas$ , permits, etc., do the math?

Tammy contacted the Forest service, the Snowgoers etc. ahead of time, we were welcomed by all, one of you on here even mailed us the maps.

Let me get this last thing strait though, are you saying these Oneskis are capable of going anywhere?;)
 
im very sorry if i went to fast on your trails! i wont do it agian!
who was riding on wensday and thursday? and mostley everone was gone by monday morning. i dont understand who you saw.
 
I was there thursday thru monday, other than tony and tammy we were the first to arrive and the last to leave. Saturday we rode at the locha lodge in idaho and thursday we had a short ride after 3 in the afternoon until dark. That leaves friday and sunday that the group rode Lolo pass. I have to say I never saw anyone showboating in the parking lot. As for breaking speed limits, the only place I saw signs posting a speed limit were near the parking area at the top of the pass. I for one did not know that there was a 25 mile per hour speed limit on all groomed trails (as you make it sound). I am guilty of passing a speed limit sign and not seeing it, I did however slow down when the next sign came up and I realized where I was. Riding in a new area is tough and I am sorry if I broke some rules in your area and you feel that we invaded your space. I know its no excuse but please have alittle understanding and think about a few things, hawks and bike conversions do not have a speedometer, we were all in a new area, and we spent alot of coin supporting your community.
 
Im curoius who mtsled head is ? As a local i am a snowgoer who has spent countless hours cutting wood for the warming hut and maintinance plus trail clearing and operating on the groomer for 9 years ! I would like to know if you have helped with any of these club functoins ?

Sat we made sure to ride down at the lochsa so not to bother the fun run so i dont appreciate some so called ( local ) since ive lived here 45 years ( my entire life ) , saying they should be checking with the locals and that they probly didnt bother . Not to mention a couple of sleds almost ran a couple of the snow bikes off the road so its a thing that unfortunately happens to every one and yes maybe there may have been a few overzealous riders being in a new area with lots of people they have never ridden with before but ive seen far worse outcomes at sled events in the past as far as rude or even accidents . I can also say as a regular who typicaly rides at the pass one to three times a week that there is a lot of sleds that rip in the parking lot to so dont try to single out one group cause i call B.S. And as for rude people you musta been hiding in a corner cause most anyone you ask about a hawk will talk your ear off about it and try to get you to ride it ! I also dont say this as just a hawker because i still own and ride sleds , just not nearly as often as my hawks .
 
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Here here for Hawk fest it was truly sweet. Met some way skilled riders and made friends for life. Also sounds like we pissed off some others. I say we get some pizza and beer and try it again.:beer;:cool::beer;
 
hawkdoggen
yes i am a native yes I belong to the club infact three state clubs
yes I have cut wood worked on signage and assisted at functions in the past
I was stating facts that I personally saw, or listened to guys bragging about in the bar. I just pointed out that any of us riding this way gets things closed and gives all motorsports a black eye.
Sorry I struck a nerve . your attitude here is what my family encountered out on the trail last weekend
Thanks for your time
 
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Montanasledhead you should try a Hawk its kind of like getting Layed. Once you have done it you spend the rest of your life trying it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and ......
 
gotta vent !

Mtsledhead ,what ticks me off is you insinuating things like we didnt check to see if anything was going on with the local club ,i did and we planned around it; thus sat we were down the lochsa and totally away from the fun run to help avoid caos with so many folks .

As for ripping in the lot , personally i did not see any, but i was not there all day. as a regular i see sleds do this weekly - point being there's always somebody in every group hitting it when technically we know they shouldnt be .

As for burning wood at the hut , we put that there for all sledders , the hawkers were not at the hut for more than 2 or 3 hours and most of them hung out outside because it was so nice so this little wood jab seems awful petty since the fire was going when we got there and we put on a few pieces, jus like other visiting sledders. and then we were on our way .

As for the tree topping - we know that unfortunately sleds are at it all the time in front of the hut, that's where most of the tracks come from . When we arrived and i saw hawks in that section i went and told them the boundaries and they apologized and stayed out. if anyone else was in it then you could have spoke up as im sure they would not have minded. in a new area people get excited and some get tunnel vision on the new snow and area and thus need some guidance .

Then lastly the bragging in the bar ... I dont think i could name one time i have been in the bar when a fellow sledder hasnt talked about this tree or that one that they snagged or broke or ran over - you get the idea. no one deliberatley hits trees and tries to ruin high dollar machines of any kind, but typically sleds will hurt more trees than hawks just because of the 46" plus or minus ski stance which allows the sled to run over more mature trees whereas a hawk will, when hitting these. just glance off to the side more often than not .

Sorry for the novel but you spoke of giving the outdoor sports a black eye , well singling out one group and trying to make issue of all of these negatives when we know its in all groups ( or the few bad apples in them ) is how these specialist groups divide and conquer us as individual groups and get us shut down. so instead of sitting back and watching, say something - thats how we should be working together to keep everything open to all our sports cause like you I do it all and dont want to lose it .

So now if ya wanna pm me we can get together and i'll personally take ya for a hawk ride ! :D:beer;
 
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Uh I think I did say something
Thats why your responding to me and my comments
I think you need to read all the way back to my first
input a week ago.
I have nor had any problem with the hawks
I sent them snow updates and hotsprings updates( the wrestling, nude swim )
I am for ALL motor sports
I was there all weekend thurs thru monday night
so I may have saw more than you
I am not saying sleds of any other sport doesnt
tear things up
just pointed out things I saw hoping they would think next time
Ask around I wasnt the only one seeing this
Sorry if it was taken wrong
Enough said
hawks if your in the area let me know I will ride with any of you
this wasnt personal
Thanks again
 
LETS GET OVER THIS Hawk fest was GREAT

OK heres my 2 cents....I Just want to put the invite out for any sled, hawk, or conversion be it 2 moto, or explorer to come ride with us in Alaska. We all are passionate about our sports and I,m sure if sled head would of asked any one of about thirty guys we would have let him ride our hawks. As for ripping up trees or the trail I do not believe that it was intensional from the group that i met. This is not saying it did not happen but I don't believe it was intensional NOW lets get over this and enjoy riding our machines instead of bi**hing and share our sport before we lose all of our riding areas to the stump huggers. :D
 
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