HELP! Sliders

[lacesout]

Hi, I have a 2015 st kit. ive rode it one time in fernie last week in decent snow. I did ride lots of trails but Ive almost wore the slider right off in one ride! The track isnt tight. do i need scratchers for the sliders? Im almost scared to ride it tomorrow. The other side is worse!!! I cant beleive i rode it one time and its worn out...

 

[lacesout]

this was fernie...,,, lots of snow........

 

[lacesout]

other side is way worse............... not impressed.......... what do i do

 

[Bocephus]

with that low of miles on them, they have to be getting hot and melting. it isnt simply "wear". are the track clips blue or discolored? if so, this is a tell tail sign they are getting way too hot. a few things that could fuel the fire here is the rider weight with all gear, gas, bags, ect...., the speed you rode, and obviously the distance. i am a big guy, and if i ride trails at high speeds with no scratchers, my hyfax will melt and the track clips turn blue from the heat. i learned that one the hard way. i would imagine it can happen to anyone. but when there is 275 lbs of rider and gear on the sled, there is bound to be more friction.


as far as scratchers, i cant help you. im not a snow bike guy. just relating to the sled world here........

 

[mtn-doo]

Good point to remember, the high fax need snow for lube. If you are on hard pack or icy roads, be sure to stay in the ditches and edges dragging your toes for some spray. Hot dry slides will melt pretty quick.

 

[AZ800]

I haven't run a paddle track without scratchers since I discovered their usefulness about 15 years ago. Haven't replaced a set of hyfax since in thousands of miles.
As said above they have to have melted I'd think. No one in your group smelled you cookin hyfax on the trail?

 

[mnsnowhawk]

Need scratchers for trail. The skid has no wheels and tall lugs. It also helps to break in new sliders also by getting some heat then getting into powder. The hole in your picture is where the scratchers mount.

 

[Summitseeker]

If you need scratchers, I have about 40 sets of my standard units left over from the Puyallup snow show sitting in Washington state that I would rather not import back into Canada.

$39.00 shipped to the lower 48.

If interested by PayPal addy is over.the.top@shaw.ca

 

[up-high]

How much pressure have you got in that front shock? Get some scratchers and stay off the trails.

 

[Chadx]

Need scratchers for trail. The skid has no wheels and tall lugs. It also helps to break in new sliders also by getting some heat then getting into powder. The hole in your picture is where the scratchers mount.

I use these same scratchers and after a full season last year, my hyfax look like new. These are cheap and will not only save the cost of new hyfax, they will save the hassle (or expense if you have a shop do such work) of changing them. Definitely use scratchers. Takes 2 - 5 minutes to install once you put the bike on a stand or tilt to the side.

 

[lacesout]

well something is wrong. I have a total of 2 rides, 6 hours long each on my 2015 MHST and my sliders are wore right out. Timbersled webside doesnt even list new sliders?!?!?! im calling to try and get some warranty of any kind. The last 6 hour ride i had scratchers on the entire ride. Half the time i was on soft trails and half the time i was in neck deep powder boon docking. I would make an effort to dip into the soft stuff when i was on the trails every couple minutes. Even with the scratchers down all day it wore the rest of the sliders off. I seen another snow bike on the trails and he had zero wear and no scratchers on his long track??? Where do i get 10 sets for cheap?.......... errrrr what a disappointment... 6000$ product lasts 12 hours?!?!?!??!?!!

 

[lacesout]

look how bad the wear is after 2 rides!!! i couldnt get any of the spring scratchers where i was at so i got the cable ones. i want to get the spring type

 

[mnsnowhawk]

Maybe you have the wrong fit kit? Wrong strut rod? Post a pic of your bike on a flat surface from the side. Maybe we can see something creating too much force on front of skid. How much play in you track when off the ground? Track too tight? Did you change any shock settings from stock? Front forks. Are your springs really soft? Where are they in the clamps? What fork springs? As many details about your setup will help us figure it out.


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[Cberg]

Something must be wrong with your setup. I've rode mine 25+ times without scratchers and do not have any wear on my sliders.

 

[mxracer299]

It looks like your track is SUPER tight. Lift it up and make sure you have an inch or so of free sag under the rails. When its lifted you should be able to turn the track by hand fairly easy. My 15 kit was ridiculously tight, there was NO free sag in it what so ever, if I would have ran it I would have nuked my hifaxes in a hurry.

 

[lacesout]

I called timbersled and they didnt help me to much. They just said that these never wear out. My verdict is that the track was way to tight and i ran it dry the first couple hours on the trails. Anyways they dont list replacement hyfax sliders on the timbersled website because they are just standard polaris 2003 and up. I was told to take the old ones off and cut the new ones to match the old ones (bevel the front with a hacksaw). Polaris makes a 3/4 and a 7/8 thick slider. The 7/8 slider is the one the timbersleds use. Either one would work tho.

 

[Jon Mutiger]

I suspect you were riding groomed trail way more than any one else ever has. I've been on snowbikes for 7 years and have never worn out a set of hyfax.

 

[mxracer299]

Im pretty sure it was track tension, a lot of the 15 kits are getting shipped with tracks that are stupid tight, I could barely move it at all with a hand on top and a hand on bottom, that will smoke hifaxs in short order.

 

[1dn5up]

well if you where doing coal creek and trying to keep up to sleds that's a long way at very high speeds. when im up there I blast for short distance then bang through the ditch for a couple hundred feet then do another blast or try riding the very edge of the trail

 

[lacesout]

I dont care what kind of riding i did. If i want to blast a trail for hours at 50mph so be it. If i have to replace sliders every two rides then thats what ill do. Sorry i ride hard?? Hopefully when i get new sliders on they dont wear out as bad if i have scratchers down all the time. I dont like riding trails but how else do you get around?