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Headache growing- 2012 Pro cutting out

Fixed another sled on the mountain yesterday with the same problem. Dealer couldn't figure it out, he would mash the throttle and it would die. We tightened the free play to nearly zero and it ran perfect. This looks like it is a very common problem that can be cured in about 30 seconds, still can't explain why.
 
I had a conversation last week with Curt at Fastrax about this issue...he said that when they install their billet throttle block and a tether, they bypass the TSS. (unlike the IQ, on the Pro the TSS circuit has to remain intact). The ECU still thinks the TSS is working normal.

Sounds like extra slack in the throttle cable is causing the TSS to act up.

If you use a tether, then it would be safe to bypass the TSS...problem solved.
 
My 11 was having a similar problem, taken to the dealer a couple of times to look at codes and a few were found but nothing conclusive. After speaking with dealer we came to conclusion that all the codes were fuel related, we both suspected it maybe fuel. I went to a different station to fill up this past weekend, rode 3 days in a row and not a single problem. I figured I must have had a bad batch of fuel and just took a couple rides to get it all cleared out of the system. Dont know if this helps and I seriously hope that is the end of my problems.
 
sounds just like mine and they finally changed out the injectors and runs great now. also might want to change out the crappy plastic fittings on the VES system as they can crack and break can cause sled to cut out above ~7000 rpm.

The fitting has more to do with position vs what it's made from. The steering linkage comes very close to it and the fitting needs to be facing straight down and not towards the clutch side or the steering will hit and break the fitting.
 
Ther have been some fuel pump issues. The pickups are collapsing and creating a volume issue-testing pressure may not reveal this. 1 in the shop currently and mine started acting up this weekend. Listen for a surging whine from the pump while it is acting up.
 
In reference to Murph's post.... This is where I have to stick up for the dealers. Polaris and all of the manufactuer's I've ever worked for WILL NOT PAY warranty time for troubleshooting. Manufactuer's feel that if a trouble code doesn't exist, then a problem doesn't exist. Unfortunately, anybody that knows anything knows this is hardly the case. If manufactuer's paid for troubleshooting/diagnostic time, then the dishonest shops would/could rack up hours of time on a warranty ticket for issues that may or not exist.


Another thing to consider is often times, manufactuer's are basically tieing the arms of the tech's behind their backs when a problem child does exist. If a multiple repeat vehicle is brought back and troubleshooting time is authorized, the manufactuer will only allow the tech at the dealer to check one thing at a time (basically tell them what and not to check/test) and then require the tech to call the diagnostic person at corporate back with the finding's. Often times when I have been required to doo this, the guy or gal on the phone telling me what I should be testing doesn't know a thing.

I agree that there are many dealers that need to invest in a much better training program for their techs, but please don't think these kinds of problem vehicle's with repeat dealer visit's that are not being fixed is all on the dealers. Both Polaris and Dealer's need to share the burden of being able to diagnois tough symptoms.
 
Tried the throttle cable fix today with no luck, still bogs. From Winter Brew's description I'm hoping it's just a bad ground.
 
In reference to Murph's post.... This is where I have to stick up for the dealers. Polaris and all of the manufactuer's I've ever worked for WILL NOT PAY warranty time for troubleshooting. Manufactuer's feel that if a trouble code doesn't exist, then a problem doesn't exist. Unfortunately, anybody that knows anything knows this is hardly the case. If manufactuer's paid for troubleshooting/diagnostic time, then the dishonest shops would/could rack up hours of time on a warranty ticket for issues that may or not exist.


Another thing to consider is often times, manufactuer's are basically tieing the arms of the tech's behind their backs when a problem child does exist. If a multiple repeat vehicle is brought back and troubleshooting time is authorized, the manufactuer will only allow the tech at the dealer to check one thing at a time (basically tell them what and not to check/test) and then require the tech to call the diagnostic person at corporate back with the finding's. Often times when I have been required to doo this, the guy or gal on the phone telling me what I should be testing doesn't know a thing.

I agree that there are many dealers that need to invest in a much better training program for their techs, but please don't think these kinds of problem vehicle's with repeat dealer visit's that are not being fixed is all on the dealers. Both Polaris and Dealer's need to share the burden of being able to diagnois tough symptoms.

I totally agree with you. I re-read my post and it does look like I am totally blaming the dealers and Polaris. Something that I failed to get across, and this was not directed at the OP or anyone else is that we need to rely on OURSELVES as owners of these sleds to help diagnose the problems.

What did we change? What were the symptoms? Digital wrench is a great tool, but the rider can be a pretty good data logger if they pay attention to when/ how a symptom occurs.

Earlier this season I thought I had a fuel pump going out based on symptoms, noise, and DET sensor. Never took it to the dealer, did the troubleshooting myself and realized either my VES valves were sticking or I had bad gas. I cleaned the valves and changed fuel and my problem was solved. Felt pretty dumb because previous to this I pulled the fuel pump assembly out of the tank, checked the fuel pressure and volume, etc, etc only to find out that it was something simple and easy and that should have been checked first.
 
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just for an update on my end. i found a hole in one of my power valve boots. replaced that, did some "testing" yesterday and the sled ran outstanding all day long.

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