I have a 08 f 350 im running a 40 gallon transfer tank in the box hooked to a small pump. works good till i hook it to my gooseneck trailer then it gells up when it is around 10-20 above 0. there is not enough anti gell or #1 to keep it from gelling!!!! Wonderd if anyone else has this problem or if it is fromthe short hose that runs from the pump to filler neck. thanks for any sugestions. william
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I would use a fuel treatment, Amsoil, Power Service, Stanadyne, etc.
I would also make sure you are getting fuel from a quality place. This time of year before we go into winter can be the worst time to get fuel. Many stations are not using cold fuel treatment yet, then it gets cold really quick and people have problems. Try to get that fuel out of the tank and get fuel from a quality place and report back.
I guess I don't understand what the gooseneck trailer has to do with the equation.
I would also make sure you are getting fuel from a quality place. This time of year before we go into winter can be the worst time to get fuel. Many stations are not using cold fuel treatment yet, then it gets cold really quick and people have problems. Try to get that fuel out of the tank and get fuel from a quality place and report back.
I guess I don't understand what the gooseneck trailer has to do with the equation.
the pump is inside the toolbox with a short hose running in from the bottom corner for the pickup the pump wont pull it out of the tank when it gets cold. been running 3 quarts of power service to 40 gallons fuel that diddent help after it warmed up it came out then we hit cold again so we put half #1 in and another 3 quarts in and still no luck the fuel is good because the truck dosent loose power
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07dragon
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maybe the pump is weak when its cold? how is the pump getting power? maybe batteries are to weak to work it in the cold. just thinking out loud, i dont see how it could be gelling with all the additive you put in, unless pump has its own filter and the filter is plugged. i dont know... just sounds like somehting besides fuel gelling to me... unless you siphoned fuel out and found it gelling.
I have a 08 F350 and have a 60 gallon tank in the back. I had the same problem you are. I ended up ditching the 3/8 hose and pump and went with a 1" feed line. Just gravity feed now and no more probelms.
Any chance you can run a coolant line to the tank? That is probably over-complicating it but a coolant line running through the tank would be sweet!
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X2Freeride
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Even if the larger line fixes your problem if your not running an additive you sure should be. This fuel we have now days SUCKS to say the least. I run power service in the white bottle year around. Not only are my MPG's better the truck runs better and starts better too. I havent tried much else for additives Power Service has always worked very well for me. Never plugged the truck in starts and runs fine down to -5 below air temp. In the 40 MPH winds we had today it never gelled either so Id say it works great.
Yes and no on the fuel. Ultra-low sulfar diesel is really a better fuel. It lacks some lubrication but overall it is a better fuel to burn, higher quality, easier on injectors, easier on the motor and specifically the oil. By fuel from a quality source. I like to use Centex. The fuel I use actually has like 2-3% bio diesel which is a GREAT lubrication.
Wind chill has no effect on fuel gelling. Just air temp.
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X2Freeride
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Yes and no on the fuel. Ultra-low sulfar diesel is really a better fuel. It lacks some lubrication but overall it is a better fuel to burn, higher quality, easier on injectors, easier on the motor and specifically the oil. By fuel from a quality source. I like to use Centex. The fuel I use actually has like 2-3% bio diesel which is a GREAT lubrication.
Wind chill has no effect on fuel gelling. Just air temp.
I use Shell Fuel most of the time. Truck seems to like it. Never tried anything with Bio diesel in it. I might have to look for some. I also agree totally about using fuel from a Quality source and not a place where the fuel is sitting a lot.
I run a 50 gallon tank in the bed and I just gravity feed it with a 3/8th hose. Now I know in Kansas where I live this won't be that much of a problem as the temps aren't that severe. But when we get into Colorado we see temps in the 15-20 below range and it still works fine. Now for the Bio-Diesel thing,I quizzed our fuel man about this and he claims that all of the fuel that they dispense has a small percent of bio in it >>>>.
I used a good quality WOG ball valve. Best part of it is I can fill the factory tank via my aux tank at the pump. We can buy the funny colored ULDS
here at a .70 a gallon cheaper. Power Service is good stuff, I use it year round but I also carry a few quarts of there 9-1-1 just in case.
The diesel we have today is not the same quality it was 20 years ago. The cetane in it is close to 10 points less. I have had a diesel truck since 1983 thinking of buying my first gas truck in 2011. The #2 diesel use to be good to 0 degrees, not anymore. I have tried some bio diesel does not like cold from my experience. In my business I burn close to 20,000 gallons of diesel per year. revrider07
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Highmarker
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Lacks lubrication but is easier on injectors? Not sure how you see that. ULSD is CRAP for injectors.
Also I have had very bad luck with Power Service. On a -25 morning I had a bottle of it freeze solid while pouring it down the filler neck. I won't use anything but Howes now. Been left stranded on the side of the highway too many times with Power Service. (doesn't help that it is a POS 6.0 Ford either)
I have an 80 gal tank in the bed of my pickup, gravity feeds to the stock filler neck with an electric solenoid that turns on/off flow from a switch on the dash, connected with a 3/8" rubber fuel line. I've never had the fuel gel coming from the tank, I've used this setup for nearly 10 years and only run #2 fuel all year. I use the Amsoil Diesel concentrate with cold flow, knock on wood, no problems.
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Power Service has been used in commercial trucking fleets for years----Go ask the snow cat operators what they use????
Power Service has been used in commercial trucking fleets for years----Go ask the snow cat operators what they use????
i dont take chances in the winter with todays fuel. i mix some #1 in the winter . we have lots of below zero here and the farm tractors have to run and so do the trucks. i mix 25 to 50 % #1 most of the winter. we had -25 f thanksgiving morning. add some more #1 in to be safe.
Greetings Williams,
Seems that your fuel gelling issue coincides with you connecting your truck to your gooseneck. Could your gooseneck trailer be re-directing the super cold air straight down onto your fuel cell as you travel down the road? Maybe the result is a huge wind chill factor causing your fuel to gel...?
Is your truck equipped with a typically truck bed or do you have a flat bed?
Strange with amount of diesel fuel additive you’re running...
Craig.
Seems that your fuel gelling issue coincides with you connecting your truck to your gooseneck. Could your gooseneck trailer be re-directing the super cold air straight down onto your fuel cell as you travel down the road? Maybe the result is a huge wind chill factor causing your fuel to gel...?
Is your truck equipped with a typically truck bed or do you have a flat bed?
Strange with amount of diesel fuel additive you’re running...
Craig.
