thanks everyone. the skinz seems so be the cheapest at $199. i think they look good, but i would be happy with one that looks like the stock pro-rides. i could get the skinz and just cut the ends off, that would be close to the 09-pro-ride bumpers, but a lot of money to just cut it up before its mounted. im really not worried about hitting a tree, insurance will help me out there, more worried about having to lift up on the front. dont want to break the plastic one on the mountain, want somehting to hold on to that you dont got to worry about