Seems to me the videos of expert class guys boondocking ,free riding in the mountains has taken over all the hill climbing hype that used to be out there.I personally have never been into hillclimbing[too dangerous on avy days]but have always been into the boondocking ,freeriding type of riding.I find with the newer machines and more experiance its amazing where you can side hill into and power turn down hill and then come back up.I recently took out a new Pro for the day and found myself sidehilling thru some real tite stuff that a few years ago I would avoid.My currant ride is a D800 and I find I can get most of my kicks boondocking thru the tite trees and creek bashing,power turning in the mountains without looking for a big hill to climb.Its taken years to hone the skills to not get stuck when it gets real nasty and the tighter the better
Free Riding ,Boondocking Vs HillClimbing
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my favorite part about enjoying this type of riding is all the fresh tracks you find!!!! i mean, some of places we ride in the koots are just a C-hair under the treeline, so there only a few "big pulls" in some areas. however, there is endless amounts of treed goodness to be had by someone that isnt scared to put a little scratch on there machine. there can be 30 dudes all attacking the same hill trying to get to the top, and if you look 400 feet on either direction of the hill, not a track to be found. see ya in the trees!!!!!!
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skidoo_guy
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I am also loving the trees!!
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rsoukup37
Member
yeah i would rather play in the trees all day than hill climb all day like my riding partners. i dont get the adrenaline rush they do with getting to the top of the hill. i would rather take my sled and make it sidehill and work my way to the top making a track that most people wouldnt think of trying
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snowmobiler
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this pro does it all.cant beat the rush from topping a mountain
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DeepInTheTrees
Active member
Agreed on the trees, thus my name 
i like it ALL!!! and I feel like if you do one of either too much you may loose touch with the other?? maybe,maybe not, not trying to start an argument here, just saying WHY i like it all!
anyway, i feel like i need to be able to ride the TIGHT tight trees and then bust out into an area that has a NASTY chute that takes some cahones to pull and then you come up on the next side which has a big cornice drop into the next batch of tight tight trees!! then you have a nasty creek/ravine crossing.... all of it.... if i don't get air time i don't feel comfortable dropping that cornice... if I don't get chute climbing time then I don't have the guts to PIN IT from the base and stay light on my machine finessing my way to the top. if I can't ride the trees i can't make it in there ot begin with let alone further on!!!
I'm on this new pro now and am DANG impressed with wht a doer it is from tight trees to chute climbs! Granted i had to track poach a bi last weekend but I did make it to the top where ONLY turbos had made it!!! yeeehhaaaaawwww!!
anyway, i feel like i need to be able to ride the TIGHT tight trees and then bust out into an area that has a NASTY chute that takes some cahones to pull and then you come up on the next side which has a big cornice drop into the next batch of tight tight trees!! then you have a nasty creek/ravine crossing.... all of it.... if i don't get air time i don't feel comfortable dropping that cornice... if I don't get chute climbing time then I don't have the guts to PIN IT from the base and stay light on my machine finessing my way to the top. if I can't ride the trees i can't make it in there ot begin with let alone further on!!!
I'm on this new pro now and am DANG impressed with wht a doer it is from tight trees to chute climbs! Granted i had to track poach a bi last weekend but I did make it to the top where ONLY turbos had made it!!! yeeehhaaaaawwww!!
for me boondocking is were its at i get a lot more of a rush out of a sidehill and tree lines than any hill a 153 track and an 800cc motor is the way to do it
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Now everyone's gonna be in the trees!!!!
Now everyone's gonna be in the trees!!!!
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colorado logger
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Loggers
LMAO, trees are for cutting down
LMAO, trees are for cutting down
I have to agree with doing it all,pushing it more than the last time i rode.higher,deeper ferther then the last time.exploring more country every trip
I would slightly beg to differ that going up hill only takes money.... I know what was meant by that statement as the HP chasing game can get a little silly.... but, for reference... one time I watched my buddy pull a 'test line' on a hill, saw how his sled performed, could guage how mine would and pulled of a nasty little climb up, sidehill over some rocks and back down.... 'course, my buddy KNEW I had poached the line HE wanted but he got to be at the bottom when some goon said, 'meh, nice line, if I could afford to replace parts on my sled I coulda pulled it too....' (ummmm, part of the skill is to be able to pull it WITHOUT having to replace parts!!!)
THERE IS SKILL to hillclimbing... there is fast reaction time when you're hauling BALLZ and have to react to a bump that throws you left -and left is a nasty cliff that drops off for hundres of feet.... the sheer 'fawk up factor' as I like to call it REALLY ups the anti and can mess with many a tree riders head.... I am not saying one of the other is better... But I AM saying that BOTH take a certain skill set that cannot be gained by only doing the other.... Granted.... some people (and this is generally the route I prefer to go) consider themselves a backcountry rider and this involves NASTY trees and ravines but also some pretty nasty chutes to get into other areas... so they may think of themselves as a tree rider but they fairly regularly get in that do or die, pin it from the meadow across the way, up and through the rocks or trees at the top type of chute pull.... and they're 'conditioned'.... But I know, from BAD experience... if you don't practice one skill set it will shrink up a bit on ya.... you might loose the technical edge in the sidehill or downhill trees (which is often with those hill climb guys who have to put chains on their skies to go down something others might hit every day!). Or you might loose the 'ballz' to hit something hard and fast and to trust that you will have the ability to do what you have to to get to the top, turn out or somehow save your machine from cartwheeling! -or, in my case a few years back, i forgot what that empty void looked like when jumping and ai froze.... made for some KILLER pics of me lawndarting... but it gave me a twitch from a neck injury that I still can't shake! hahahah, kiddin, no twitch, a random cuss word might come out now and again though!!
anyway, just wanted to defend the chute climber mentality cause my brother is CONSTANTLY on me that it doesn't take ANY skill to climb a chute and I beg to differ and have seem some HELLA technical chutes pulled off (for example one in that last 509 films flick by Bryan Bonnet on a STOCK M1000. so no high $$ machine there!!!)
ok, back to the discussion.... had to defnend the chute bangers!!
THERE IS SKILL to hillclimbing... there is fast reaction time when you're hauling BALLZ and have to react to a bump that throws you left -and left is a nasty cliff that drops off for hundres of feet.... the sheer 'fawk up factor' as I like to call it REALLY ups the anti and can mess with many a tree riders head.... I am not saying one of the other is better... But I AM saying that BOTH take a certain skill set that cannot be gained by only doing the other.... Granted.... some people (and this is generally the route I prefer to go) consider themselves a backcountry rider and this involves NASTY trees and ravines but also some pretty nasty chutes to get into other areas... so they may think of themselves as a tree rider but they fairly regularly get in that do or die, pin it from the meadow across the way, up and through the rocks or trees at the top type of chute pull.... and they're 'conditioned'.... But I know, from BAD experience... if you don't practice one skill set it will shrink up a bit on ya.... you might loose the technical edge in the sidehill or downhill trees (which is often with those hill climb guys who have to put chains on their skies to go down something others might hit every day!). Or you might loose the 'ballz' to hit something hard and fast and to trust that you will have the ability to do what you have to to get to the top, turn out or somehow save your machine from cartwheeling! -or, in my case a few years back, i forgot what that empty void looked like when jumping and ai froze.... made for some KILLER pics of me lawndarting... but it gave me a twitch from a neck injury that I still can't shake! hahahah, kiddin, no twitch, a random cuss word might come out now and again though!!
anyway, just wanted to defend the chute climber mentality cause my brother is CONSTANTLY on me that it doesn't take ANY skill to climb a chute and I beg to differ and have seem some HELLA technical chutes pulled off (for example one in that last 509 films flick by Bryan Bonnet on a STOCK M1000. so no high $$ machine there!!!)
ok, back to the discussion.... had to defnend the chute bangers!!
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aadougie
Well-known member
Gotta love the trees...
Joyce Kilmer. 1886–1918
Trees
I THINK that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the sweet earth's flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom SNOW has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
Joyce Kilmer. 1886–1918
Trees
I THINK that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the sweet earth's flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom SNOW has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
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pelon
Well-known member
Just started riding more in the trees this year with my very lightend nytro se. Its a great workout and definetly has improved my skills. However, there is nothing like pulling a shoot on my 174 turbo apex. Depending on your mood that day ---just own 2 sleds---one for shoots and the other for boondocking.
Just don't buy that piece of garbage 2011 Polaris Pro 800. If you do buy one, rip the 800 motor out and put the 700 back in.
Just don't buy that piece of garbage 2011 Polaris Pro 800. If you do buy one, rip the 800 motor out and put the 700 back in.
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aebsledder
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Deep. I have seen it all on Snowest now. Who would have thought a little poetry would have worked its way into the mix? The longer I snowmobile the more I enjoy getting off the beaten path and exploring trees and creek bottoms. I know it has definitely made me a better rider. I rode with a guy about a month ago that I had never rode with before . I felt pretty good about my skills until I rode with him. Not only could he climb, sidehill, jump, and pretty much everything else sled related, but he did it with an amazing amount of speed and confidence. Plus he had a frickin broken leg and was riding basically one legged. I do like the occasional more technical climb, but just pinning it and holding on up a bare hillside doesn't really do it for me any more. The hill climbs that look intriguing to me usually look really avalanche prone and just plain scary. I would probably be more scared coming down then going up.
Yesterday another great day of booning,78 miles and used my reserve gas to get back home.Started out pushing further into some unknowned spots after spending 29 minutes digging my bud out of a creek we came into more places I had never seen.I love leading and pushing the boundries and was rewarded yesterday of a large canyon ,bowl,kinda like a huge half pipe which was completly untouched.You could shoot from side to side climbing ,jumping ,sidehilling what a blast.Poked up some steep small hills with no run up and I trenched in on one and the 2 of us had to roll it completly over to get it out.Its also with sadness I learn of 3 more avy deaths on the same day in Golden only 4 hours away.Where I ride there are no real avy concerns.Will get some pics up later
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old habits
When we rode our home built long track phazers with plastic paddles we made and replaced every nite, hill climbing was a religion. Now, history.
Once a year I drive past those same old hills and chutes and ride up the canyon, watch for a few minutes, listen to someone babbling about track speed and boost and octane....... and then go riding.
They wonder where I go all day and I wonder how they do it all day. Buried 5 friends in the last 10 years, so my adversion to staring up chutes has dimmed. Don't call me anymore, said not to go there when we were leaving the hiway.
Collecting new parts for a snow bike now, think I'll go all the placess to narrow for the M. Stomp up a few brushy creek bottoms I have only hiked.
No reason, just got to keep moving along, seeing something new.
So have fun in the chutes. Come by in a few years and we'll go riding.
When we rode our home built long track phazers with plastic paddles we made and replaced every nite, hill climbing was a religion. Now, history.
Once a year I drive past those same old hills and chutes and ride up the canyon, watch for a few minutes, listen to someone babbling about track speed and boost and octane....... and then go riding.
They wonder where I go all day and I wonder how they do it all day. Buried 5 friends in the last 10 years, so my adversion to staring up chutes has dimmed. Don't call me anymore, said not to go there when we were leaving the hiway.
Collecting new parts for a snow bike now, think I'll go all the placess to narrow for the M. Stomp up a few brushy creek bottoms I have only hiked.
No reason, just got to keep moving along, seeing something new.
So have fun in the chutes. Come by in a few years and we'll go riding.
