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Forest Rangers on Sleds?

I have talked in depth several times with the ranger in our riding area, super nice guy, rides a 99 rmk 7, he says its his job to check stickers and help people in need of directions said he is not suppose to be doing any extreme riding, said he enjoy's eating his lunch watching hill climbers and thier misshaps. They do have him packed down with a bunch of gear and pistol. Funny thing is he looks alot like Jim Carey. I want to ask him if I could take his picture with him holding the nine in a gang stance. "Bust a cap" style. But I have yet.
 
The rangers in the cache valley Utah side are good guys.
I run into them all the time and they are not very experienced.
Helped one of them after a rollover in the parking lot!
And 1 time up the trail.
The time up the trail was early season and about 2.5 to 3 feet of fresh.
We were breaking trail up a canyon, and some in my group got stuck.
I had turned around to help, and as we were digging out, here they came with no trail to follow past my tracks which was not on the main trail.
The first guy burried it big time and his partner turned out.
Just as I thought he would backtrack to the trail, he was going about 1 mile an hour in the wrong direction, so he burried it.
I went to help the 2nd as my group helped the 1st guy.
He was kind of upset and said "your supposed to stay on the trail" I looked around and said "what trail?" he was still upset, so I said "would you like some help or not"... He finally calmed down and I'm sure he was upset due to frustration.
All they were trying to do was get up top to post the out of bounds markers... No way in hell they could have made it untill many more people passed and packed the trail.
They had no business being off the main road in those conditions.
Other than parking lot, trail head, or competition hill, we rarely run into them.
 
I wonder if this would be an opportunity for local clubs to step up and maybe put an advanced snowmobile operating class on or something? It sure would make some brownie points. Or maybe it is a bad idea for us snowmobilers?
 
ruffryder said:
I wonder if this would be an opportunity for local clubs to step up and maybe put an advanced snowmobile operating class on or something? It sure would make some brownie points. Or maybe it is a bad idea for us snowmobilers?
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do you think they would even take us up if we offered? I would think that some of them would but i would think most would be know it all's and refuse the class.

I saw some in Vail pass get stuck coming down off a hill hugged way to close to the trees where the powder blows in dumped it in a tree well. we helped him out.
 
I have never seen one anywhere but walking around @ the trailhead. I hope it remains that way!
 
i have only seen one around here and he was riding an old fan 550 and the way he rode it somewhat resembled a man missing all limbs loaded down with a bunch of crap trying to hump a foot ball lol! you could have killed a wolf in front of him, skinned it, ate it and tanned the hide and by the time he goton and goin you could be loaded up and gone!!
 
Some of the Sheriffs can ride with the best of them, so don't assume.

A guy asked me about my sled. Talking to him I found out he does FS snowmobile training. So, he takes a group out to a hill to teach them how to climb. They end up rolling 3 sleds down the hill, people stuck everywhere, and towing a few sleds back to the trailer. During trailer loading training. One landed in the back of the truck, one cleared the trailer. A couple rolled off the trailer, and many ended up crashing into other sleds on the trailer. And, many spin outs on the loading ramp. They ended up wrecking 7 of the 8 sleds in some fashion. The trailer and truck needed some work afterwards also. Basically, a disaster.

I read an article about some wilderness problems the FS was having. Some areas have decided to not pursue people into the wilderness. Too much danger of hurt employees, and damaged sleds, and hostile confrontations.

Once, I had a FS guy accuse me of riding in a wilderness area. After he went on for some time, I asked him how I was riding wilderness, doubled up, with luggage on my sled? He didn't realize we had been back to the cabin for the night. He had eyewitnesses! Finally, he gave up. Seems his eyewitness just saw a trailer parked along the road and assumed we were in the wilderness. He was all puffed up about it though. I then started asking him questions, turned out he knew absolutely nothing about the area or sleds. He couldn't get away from me fast enough, jumped in his truck and took off.

Oh well. FS guys aren't bad people, they got a job to do, but it is funny that they don't know much about the sport.
 
Some of them ride okay but most don't have a very good sled. The one I always ran into in Montana was on an old 750 V-Max short track and was always by himself. He was a pretty good guy even though he did right me a ticket a couple of times for different stuff. Just doing his job and never got on a power trip.
 
Most are real good people but I met a couple of them that had some serious
Peni$ envy or some other deficiency issues.
They told me I was throwing too much snow from my snow flap on the REV.
It was stock, no mods etc...They were just trying to prove they were in charge.
typical "Captain of the World" type jokers. :mad:









As I left, I roosted them both and suggested they try to catch me :D
 
Adrenaline Revolution said:
Most are real good people but I met a couple of them that had some serious
Peni$ envy or some other deficiency issues.
They told me I was throwing too much snow from my snow flap on the REV.
It was stock, no mods etc...They were just trying to prove they were in charge.
typical "Captain of the World" type jokers. :mad:









As I left, I roosted them both and suggested they try to catch me :D
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Where was this?
 
Alot of folks posting here have seen many "nice guys" on forest service sleds. I've snowmobiled all over the west for the last 25 years fully enjoying gods creations, my public lands, and living life to the fullest. Only once have I come across a "nice guy" on a forest service sled. He was working a parking lot near McCall. I've had several totally unprovoked confrontations including twice being held against my will "at gunpoint" for doing nothing wrong whatsoever. I wish I could bump into a "nice guy" every now and then, it would give me a wee bit more faith in the human race.
 
Unfortunately most of the FS law enforcement guys have a bit of an ego problem. Sorry you've had such bad luck with the agency boys... I'd tell you to come up my way and bump into me but down here I don't get to go play in the winter for work.
 
Anytime you give anybody any kind of authority, most of the time they're going to take it too far. Heck for all we know, they're trained to "let 'em know who's boss," which is why they come off as pricks.

IMO, the way things are going, most of us are going to start packing heat, out in the open where it's visible and legal. Anybody who stops us will have to think long and hard how much they have to wave their d!ck, because odds are it'll be 5-6 against one.

A couple years ago, the local Forest Circus bought up a bunch of the "new" 05 and 06 RMKs that were leftovers, so that should tell you right there what they know about snowmobiles.

Rob
 
If you feel your basic rights are violated by the Forest Circus employees, remember, the highest authority in any county is the Sheriff, and a complaint or charges may lead to an arrest of the FS employee.
 
There is about a 10 year(or more) lag time between the technology that the top hobby/enthusiests use and the stuff that enforcment officers are given. Police driving crown vics trying to catch a subaru sti or lancer evo x. A cop on a harley road glide trying to keep up with an R1 or busa, and a fish cop on a 550 fan eating snow from a boosted nytro. I think its mostly attributed to how slow and inefficient the gov is in getting anything done.

Ive only had one run in with a fish cop and i got a ticket for having an unloaded/properly disarmed rifle laying on the floor in the back seat of my truck. They had a checkstop set up on the highway inside of a wildlife sanctuary. To be legal i would have had to "lay a blanket, towel or even a pair of coveralls over top of it". So the fish and wildlife officers here have a 100% failure rate with me.
 
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