Ford building plant in Mexico

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Mafesto,It is plain to see that you have never been in a situation where you dedicate your drive, talents, heart and soul ,hard work and determination into progressing a company to the top. All this time you are missing your kids dance recitals, ball games and anything else that a good dad would want to do with his family.What I learned is if you become ultra capable to deal with problems, do a good job, don't use any sick days, become certified to deal with some of the legalitys of this industry, it really doesn't matter because after ten years the company get's sold the shareholders make a mint and the employees who pushed it to the top get bent over a garbage can ;pants jerked to their ankles and you know what happens next not even a thank you. Now I have been on both sides and what I have seen is it is hard to find a union hand that will work as hard as a scab. I know I made more money, had better benefits and was appreciated more when I was union.One thing you people need to know-I AM NOT PRO UNION but I know if we would have had a union at my other job my time would of been well spent- without it I got screwed.

 

[Mafesto]

Mafesto,It is plain to see that you have never been in a situation where you dedicate your drive, talents, heart and soul ,hard work and determination into progressing a company to the top.

On the contrary, I have, multiple times.
But I used the tough times as motivation to excel, multiple times.
I would consider myself lower middle class.
I am an employee, not an employer.
I would certainly benefit from this imaginary utopian dream world many of you think this world should be.
I am not singing that tune because that is not the way I was raised.
F_ck 'til Friday! I cannot believe the way you people piss and moan about unfairness!
What in hell makes you think life should be fair?
Where is that written?

 

[shelbwyo]

Good ol union is currently trying to screw all the employees where I work out of a job

 

[Mafesto]

The reason I have such strong feelings on this is because I am trying to send a message to the younger viewers on here.
There is not a lot of things in life that can be guaranteed, buy I do guarantee that you will go farther in life if you follow the things I have said in this thread.
It's about taking control of your own destiny.

 

[Snowmow]

The reason I have such strong feelings on this is because I am trying to send a message to the younger viewers on here.
There is not a lot of things in life that can be guaranteed, buy I do guarantee that you will go farther in life if you follow the things I have said in this thread.
It's about taking control of your own destiny.

Life coach MAFESTO!!

 

[POLZIN]

I agree with Polzin, but does anyone know what the import/export tariffs are both ways with Mexico? I do not.

I tried to take my vibration equipment into Mexico and the tax was more than 50% of its value. That's how you keep jobs in Mexico

 

[Mafesto]

Life coach MAFESTO!!

Scary, ain't it!

 

[Snowmow]

You guys are right, Unions are not the sole problem, I'll admit that.
But to think they are not at all part of the problem only proves that you are indeed lacking in common sense.


Too many of you think you deserve more because the union can get you more. That pretend world exists at the end of the rainbow somewhere in candyland where unicorns have boners made of chocolate.


Let me tell you how we do it in the real world.
You do your job to the best of your ability.
You show up every day and on time.
You do not call in sick, you show up and if your boss thinks you're sick enough he sends you home. (and he respects that you showed up in that condition)
If you don't like something, you voice your opinion, you take action.
If you cannot change it, you learn to accept it or you move on.
When you do move on, you give 2 weeks notice and you give the company 2 damned good weeks so they know they are losing a winner. (you may want to come back one day)
YOU LEAVE YOUR F_ING PHONE IN YOUR CAR!!!!!
If you think you deserve more money, it is YOUR JOB to convince you boss as to why.
Work like you are trying to make the guy next to you look bad.
But at the same time help him in every effort to do his job as well, people WILL notice.


Bottom line, bust your balls and everything else will take care of itself!

I agree 100%. I live my life this way, my dad and grandfather taught me to be this way. It's never not paid off for me.

Scary, ain't it!

Not scary. Because I agree with ya on this.

 

[polaris dude]

heh I use my phone all the time at work. And I don't wanna work hard. I'm just gonna keep gambling my money away on out of the money stock options LOL

 

[Pro-8250]

Nobody ever talks about this, but this next generation here just don't want to work. They want jobs, but they they don't want to bust butt to advance themselves.
I've worked alongside Mexicans on jobsites and I'm here to tell you that they work. They are not afraid to bust azz!

I disagree. I was in construction for forty years and I have the worn out body to prove it. My kid now is doing what I did all of those years. Many of the guys he works for (some I trained) tell me he is a very hard worker and does excellent work. Maybe your opinion is the young people in your area are not good productive workers, fair enough, but that is not the case everywhere. I have worked in several states in the Midwest and Washington state. Go work construction in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, where unions are invisible and let us know how you like it. Oh and when you are sixty and things are getting a little slow try busting your azz and keep up with a 30 year old. Who do you think the contractor is going to keep? Polaris and Arctic Cat are non union and their workers can't even afford to buy the product they build. No matter how hard they bust their azz.

 

[polaris dude]

I disagree. I was in construction for forty years and I have the worn out body to prove it. My kid now is doing what I did all of those years. Many of the guys he works for (some I trained) tell me he is a very hard worker and does excellent work. Maybe your opinion is the young people in your area are not good productive workers, fair enough, but that is not the case everywhere. I have worked in several states in the Midwest and Washington state. Go work construction in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, where unions are invisible and let us know how you like it. Oh and when you are sixty and things are getting a little slow try busting your azz and keep up with a 30 year old. Who do you think the contractor is going to keep? Polaris and Arctic Cat are non union and their workers can't even afford to buy the product they build. No matter how hard they bust their azz.

That is the problem with the liberal party. They want to keep bringing in immigrants AND they somehow expect wages to go up. You can have either/or. You can either have a bunch of uneducated workers that work for almost nothing OR you can have a decent minimum wage that is necessary to get someone to even step a foot in the door. It goes back to one of the most basic principles of supply and demand.

 

[Mafesto]

I disagree. I was in construction for forty years and I have the worn out body to prove it. My kid now is doing what I did all of those years. Many of the guys he works for (some I trained) tell me he is a very hard worker and does excellent work. Maybe your opinion is the young people in your area are not good productive workers, fair enough, but that is not the case everywhere.
I think your exposed to hard working young people because not too many of the softies are going to go into the construction biz

I have worked in several states in the Midwest and Washington state. Go work construction in Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, where unions are invisible and let us know how you like it.
I've never worked on a site that was exclusively union and I've never been in a union and I've never been told I wasn't working hard enough, never been asked to take any un-necessary risks and always felt that my compensation was very fair for the work I was doing in the given environment

Oh and when you are sixty and things are getting a little slow try busting your azz and keep up with a 30 year old. Who do you think the contractor is going to keep?
That is a very good point, you got me on that for sure.

Polaris and Arctic Cat are non union and their workers can't even afford to buy the product they build. No matter how hard they bust their azz.
That sucks, but it's a big world out there, with all kinds of opportunity[/QUOTE]



Good discussion!

 

[mountainhorse]

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[mold]

Hellcat engines are built in Mexico and then shipped to Canada where the rest of the Hellcat is made.

 

[Deep Powder Guy]

You can buy a Fordito cheap in Mexico.

DPG