Ford building plant in Mexico
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mi nuevo coche Ford será mejor que un esquí doo francés! palos de polvo! y más barato, así ..
Mark Fields makes $15 million dollars a year + bonus/stock options.
Damn those unions for wanting middle class wage!!!!
At least the workers in MeyHeeCo will make $20 per day.
Well, look at it this way...
If it weren't for the UAW, this plant would likely have been built somewhere in the Midwest providing people (most with no post HS education) with $20/hr jobs.
But no. UAW forces these low skill jobs to be over $30/hr with crazy super benefits.
End result? Plant in Mexico.
Ford executives first responsibility is to their stockholders. This location makes more financial sense.
Yep, them unions are freaking wonderful, ain't they?
If it weren't for the UAW, this plant would likely have been built somewhere in the Midwest providing people (most with no post HS education) with $20/hr jobs.
But no. UAW forces these low skill jobs to be over $30/hr with crazy super benefits.
End result? Plant in Mexico.
Ford executives first responsibility is to their stockholders. This location makes more financial sense.
Yep, them unions are freaking wonderful, ain't they?
Exactly. Did you see what they are getting this year in bonuses? Pretty huge figures. They will save a bunch of money too. Which is fantastic for my bottom line
Mexico:
~tax base is lower than U.S.
~less work practice influence (no OSHA)
~easier shipping to foreign countries since oceans are close on each side
~No EPA regulations(fees/cost)
~Cheap labor well below U.S. minimum wage scale
But I'm sure the unions are the only reason.
~tax base is lower than U.S.
~less work practice influence (no OSHA)
~easier shipping to foreign countries since oceans are close on each side
~No EPA regulations(fees/cost)
~Cheap labor well below U.S. minimum wage scale
But I'm sure the unions are the only reason.
Nobody ever talks about this, but this next generation here just don't want to work. They want jobs, but they they don't want to bust butt to advance themselves.
I've worked alongside Mexicans on jobsites and I'm here to tell you that they work. They are not afraid to bust azz!
BINGO! Thank you UAW!
But I'm sure the unions are the only reason.
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Consumer Prices in Detroit, MI are 78.37% higher than in Mexico City
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Detroit, MI are 75.38% higher than in Mexico City
Rent Prices in Detroit, MI are 68.03% higher than in Mexico City
Restaurant Prices in Detroit, MI are 63.63% higher than in Mexico City
Groceries Prices in Detroit, MI are 95.41% higher than in Mexico City
Local Purchasing Power in Detroit, MI is 174.53% higher than in Mexico City
Now is that the UAW's fault ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But I'm sure the unions are the only reason.
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Consumer Prices in Detroit, MI are 78.37% higher than in Mexico City
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Detroit, MI are 75.38% higher than in Mexico City
Rent Prices in Detroit, MI are 68.03% higher than in Mexico City
Restaurant Prices in Detroit, MI are 63.63% higher than in Mexico City
Groceries Prices in Detroit, MI are 95.41% higher than in Mexico City
Local Purchasing Power in Detroit, MI is 174.53% higher than in Mexico City
Now is that the UAW's fault ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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inspector01
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Ford has been building many vehicles in Mexico for years, it's funny that all of my "American" vehicles were built in Mexico, and my "foreign" cars all built in USA or Canada.
EPA and OSHA standards are a huge reason, I worked for a company that moved all PCB manufacturing to Mexico to avoid the EPA regulations.
And yes, blame the damn unions and this lazy generation for trying to be able to support a family on 1 full time salary, you know, like everyone used to be able to do 30 years ago. What lazy, entitled pieces of ****. It has nothing to do with the generation that ****ed the financial system, increased cost of living, decreased wages, and can't retire because of poor financial planning.
EPA and OSHA standards are a huge reason, I worked for a company that moved all PCB manufacturing to Mexico to avoid the EPA regulations.
And yes, blame the damn unions and this lazy generation for trying to be able to support a family on 1 full time salary, you know, like everyone used to be able to do 30 years ago. What lazy, entitled pieces of ****. It has nothing to do with the generation that ****ed the financial system, increased cost of living, decreased wages, and can't retire because of poor financial planning.
I'll be honest, if your not exposed to the markets(stock market) you are losing out. Everything that executives do is 100% for STOCK GROWTH. They don't care about anything else because that is how they are paid and that is who they answer to. Which explains why salaries aren't moving(they'll only pay the bare minimum for labor) and why the middle class/lower class aren't keeping up with the wealthy. This is why the top 10% makes something stupid like 95% of the money- because they hold the assets.
Luckily for those of us not privileged enough to have 7 figure bank accounts our net worth isn't as heavily tied to equity market so when things crash(and they inevitably do) your networth doesn't plummet 50%+
You guys are right, Unions are not the sole problem, I'll admit that.
But to think they are not at all part of the problem only proves that you are indeed lacking in common sense.
Too many of you think you deserve more because the union can get you more. That pretend world exists at the end of the rainbow somewhere in candyland where unicorns have boners made of chocolate.
Let me tell you how we do it in the real world.
You do your job to the best of your ability.
You show up every day and on time.
You do not call in sick, you show up and if your boss thinks you're sick enough he sends you home. (and he respects that you showed up in that condition)
If you don't like something, you voice your opinion, you take action.
If you cannot change it, you learn to accept it or you move on.
When you do move on, you give 2 weeks notice and you give the company 2 damned good weeks so they know they are losing a winner. (you may want to come back one day)
YOU LEAVE YOUR F_ING PHONE IN YOUR CAR!!!!!
If you think you deserve more money, it is YOUR JOB to convince you boss as to why.
Work like you are trying to make the guy next to you look bad.
But at the same time help him in every effort to do his job as well, people WILL notice.
Bottom line, bust your balls and everything else will take care of itself!
But to think they are not at all part of the problem only proves that you are indeed lacking in common sense.
Too many of you think you deserve more because the union can get you more. That pretend world exists at the end of the rainbow somewhere in candyland where unicorns have boners made of chocolate.
Let me tell you how we do it in the real world.
You do your job to the best of your ability.
You show up every day and on time.
You do not call in sick, you show up and if your boss thinks you're sick enough he sends you home. (and he respects that you showed up in that condition)
If you don't like something, you voice your opinion, you take action.
If you cannot change it, you learn to accept it or you move on.
When you do move on, you give 2 weeks notice and you give the company 2 damned good weeks so they know they are losing a winner. (you may want to come back one day)
YOU LEAVE YOUR F_ING PHONE IN YOUR CAR!!!!!
If you think you deserve more money, it is YOUR JOB to convince you boss as to why.
Work like you are trying to make the guy next to you look bad.
But at the same time help him in every effort to do his job as well, people WILL notice.
Bottom line, bust your balls and everything else will take care of itself!
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^what he said. I hate working anywhere that I am not one of the top performers. Although it sucks right now because I know there are a couple of people at my current place of work that I know are fundamentally better at our position which is fine that means I haven't hit the ceiling yet.
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inspector01
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Unions are the result of owners/bosses/companies not treating employees fairly. In an ideal world they wouldn't be necessary as employees would be treated fairly, and make enough to live on, but they aren't, and If you think they are, you're delusional.
My SO had to become a rep for a newly formed collective bargaining unit because she works 60+ hrs every week, 6-7 days a week for LESS than minimum wage and pays 10% of what she makes back to her employer just to be able to park at work, , and that is at a public university, not a private corporation. After almost a year of negotiations, they agreed to a 2% pay increase over 2 years (1% per year, far less than cost of living increase in Seattle). Is that fair? Does she just need to work harder and they'll do it on their own? They didn't want to have to form a CBU but had no choice when theyre treated like ****.
My SO had to become a rep for a newly formed collective bargaining unit because she works 60+ hrs every week, 6-7 days a week for LESS than minimum wage and pays 10% of what she makes back to her employer just to be able to park at work, , and that is at a public university, not a private corporation. After almost a year of negotiations, they agreed to a 2% pay increase over 2 years (1% per year, far less than cost of living increase in Seattle). Is that fair? Does she just need to work harder and they'll do it on their own? They didn't want to have to form a CBU but had no choice when theyre treated like ****.
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That always sounds like a great idea but can turn into a vicious cycle in trade industry.
If they treated her so bad why didn't she just quit and work elsewhere? If someone doesn't pay you a livable wage why don't you find someone else that will? If no one is willing to pay you a decent wage perhaps the problem isn't the corporation? I am not saying this is your SO's case, but I am tired of people thinking that being a cashier at mcdonalds or walmart should pay well enough to live an easy life. It shouldn't. Those are the kinds of jobs teenagers should be working to get experience and some money to go out on the weekends.
The best thing any of us can teach the next generation is that life isn't fair.
You can pout about it, wah wah, boo, hoo, life isn't fair, hope someone else fights your battles for you and vote for Bernie Sanders.
Or you can pull up your big boy pants and play the hand you're dealt to the very best of your abilities, make the best decisions you can and teach your children the value of hard work because the world sure doesn't need another generation of softies.
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