For the Pro guys
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To loud for my taste. A little weight savings (won't make up for the e start weight) and no power gain..... just pisses off those who would move the out of bounds signs down the mountain. Save your money, and send it to those who might help us still have some back country to ride in. Loud pipes, will do us in guys!
i have to agree i ride with few buddies that have "mountain cans" and they are loud and people notice them 
great weight savings and it looks thought out !
just not sure its worth the pissed off whistle blowers
steelman sorry for pissing in your beer just being honest
great weight savings and it looks thought out !
just not sure its worth the pissed off whistle blowers
steelman sorry for pissing in your beer just being honest
Looks like some poor fit out the bottom hole.
Does the stock rubber not fit/work with these cans?
Way too loud.
Aftermarket: You need to stop making loud cans to stop people from buying and using loud cans. Please, do your part. Props to SLP for doing it right.
Does the stock rubber not fit/work with these cans?
Way too loud.
Aftermarket: You need to stop making loud cans to stop people from buying and using loud cans. Please, do your part. Props to SLP for doing it right.
No..... I like my sleds quiet too but that's going to far.
Keep in mind, there is 3-cans on the video. 1st one is the mountain can and not for everyone, I understand. 2nd one is the trail can and this is very close to stock levels. 3rd is the stock Polaris can. I have had guys tell me that the trail and stock can are very close to one another. I will attach true sound data on the three cans.
Our tests were taken 3 feet from exhaust outlet at a 45° angle back, 1 foot off the ground. Unfortunately this is not how the SAE or enforcement perform the test but it gives a comparison.
Tested - 2012 RUSH 800
Idle 3500rpm (just before engagement)
Stock - 86 94
GGB Trail - 90 97
Mountain - 91 104
The Trail can will meet SAE J-2567. The Mountain can will not.
SAE standard test 88 decibels
*Jan. 2004 SAE J2567 stationary test overview: The sound meter microphone is placed 4 feet above the ground, inline with the exhaust outlet/center point of multiple exhaust outlets, on the side of the snowmobile toward which the exhaust is directed, 4 meters distance from the snowmobile longitudinal centerline. The operator holds the brake during the test, starts and runs the engine up to normal operating temperature, then slowly opens the throttle until a steady 3,750 to 4,000 rpm is achieved for not less than 4 seconds. The test is immediately repeated and the two readings averaged.
Our tests were taken 3 feet from exhaust outlet at a 45° angle back, 1 foot off the ground. Unfortunately this is not how the SAE or enforcement perform the test but it gives a comparison.
Tested - 2012 RUSH 800
Idle 3500rpm (just before engagement)
Stock - 86 94
GGB Trail - 90 97
Mountain - 91 104
The Trail can will meet SAE J-2567. The Mountain can will not.
SAE standard test 88 decibels
*Jan. 2004 SAE J2567 stationary test overview: The sound meter microphone is placed 4 feet above the ground, inline with the exhaust outlet/center point of multiple exhaust outlets, on the side of the snowmobile toward which the exhaust is directed, 4 meters distance from the snowmobile longitudinal centerline. The operator holds the brake during the test, starts and runs the engine up to normal operating temperature, then slowly opens the throttle until a steady 3,750 to 4,000 rpm is achieved for not less than 4 seconds. The test is immediately repeated and the two readings averaged.
Mountain Models
GGB Lightweight Mountain mufflers provide a huge weight savings with an aggressive exhaust note. Each system fits securely in the stock location and weigh in at a mere 3.5 - 6 pounds each. Muffler is finished in a high heat satin black and installs without any modifications. This Mountain muffler is designed specifically for use in areas where increased sound levels are not an issue.
Trail Models
GGB Trail mufflers offer a true, trail tuned sound that won't draw unwanted attention or leave you "sound fatigued" at the end of the day. Each system is designed to fit securely in the stock location, using stock mounts and weigh between 5 -7.5 pounds each. All GGB trail mufflers are built with sound control in mind and offer awesome performance without all the noise. Each muffler is finished in a high heat satin black and installs without any modifications.
Just adding some more info for everyone. I agree, that the mountain can is not for everyone. That what is nice about GGB, is they also cater to the group that does not want the excess noise and is just looking for a different tone and a little performance increase.
GGB Lightweight Mountain mufflers provide a huge weight savings with an aggressive exhaust note. Each system fits securely in the stock location and weigh in at a mere 3.5 - 6 pounds each. Muffler is finished in a high heat satin black and installs without any modifications. This Mountain muffler is designed specifically for use in areas where increased sound levels are not an issue.
Trail Models
GGB Trail mufflers offer a true, trail tuned sound that won't draw unwanted attention or leave you "sound fatigued" at the end of the day. Each system is designed to fit securely in the stock location, using stock mounts and weigh between 5 -7.5 pounds each. All GGB trail mufflers are built with sound control in mind and offer awesome performance without all the noise. Each muffler is finished in a high heat satin black and installs without any modifications.
Just adding some more info for everyone. I agree, that the mountain can is not for everyone. That what is nice about GGB, is they also cater to the group that does not want the excess noise and is just looking for a different tone and a little performance increase.
I really see no point putting a can on these pro's. the ones that lose any weight, sound AWFUL and the ones that have a tolerable sound, hardly lose any weight so it seems like a waste of money... to me anyway. I think polaris did their job properly when it came to the stock can on these things. Props to steelman though for pushing the hell out these things... I really hope he is getting a kick back from GGB for all the pushing he does of these things on snowest
Thanks, but I get no major kickback on them. I got my can for helping and a shirt, but that's about it. Anyone that mentions Steelman when they call gets free freight. I guess you could say that is my kickback and I pass it on to my fellow sledders. I'm on here a lot and will help anyone in promoting there product. Call me crazy, but I just like to help people. They are not for everyone and I know that.
the sound readings are kinda silly because we all know that the loud cans out there aren't too bad till you hold them to the bar and then they're crazy louder than stockers
all my buddies with similar loud cans ride with ear plugs
all my buddies with similar loud cans ride with ear plugs
Sorry Steelman and every other loud can buyer, but you guys just give the greenies another reason to hate on sleds.
Steelman, I know you know my feelings on this because you deleted a similar thread you had before the season started when I confronted you directly about loud cans. Is ten pounds of weight savings (On a sled with E-start!) and a free T-shirt worth the closure of more riding areas?
And yes, I've heard all the arguments before.... "I ride on private land", "F___ the greenies", "no one is out where we ride","it's just one loud pipe" etc, etc.
The reality is we, as sledders, don't live in a bubble. Neither do those of you who buy loud pipes and then come ride on public lands. I ride sleds and hate hearing loud pipes.... and I LOVE sleds. Now think about the dog musher or cross country skier and what they think about loud pipes. The environmentalists are waaayyyy better organized then we sledders are-- look at all the closed riding areas.
What's even worse is the guy who buys a loud pipe and then goes and rides in another state and directly contributes to the closing of an area. How happy would your neighbors be if I came to your house and ran a loud pipe there all day?
To be clear, I work in Motorsports. I worked in the Motogp World Championship for five years where the dB "limit" was over 130. We all wore ear protection and were mic'd up just so we could understand what adjustments we needed to make to the motorcycle. I'm not against noise, but there is a time and a place.
Riding a sled on public land is neither the time or the place. Continuing to think otherwise will just contribute to more land closures.
Rant over (again)....
Flame on.
Steelman, I know you know my feelings on this because you deleted a similar thread you had before the season started when I confronted you directly about loud cans. Is ten pounds of weight savings (On a sled with E-start!) and a free T-shirt worth the closure of more riding areas?
And yes, I've heard all the arguments before.... "I ride on private land", "F___ the greenies", "no one is out where we ride","it's just one loud pipe" etc, etc.
The reality is we, as sledders, don't live in a bubble. Neither do those of you who buy loud pipes and then come ride on public lands. I ride sleds and hate hearing loud pipes.... and I LOVE sleds. Now think about the dog musher or cross country skier and what they think about loud pipes. The environmentalists are waaayyyy better organized then we sledders are-- look at all the closed riding areas.
What's even worse is the guy who buys a loud pipe and then goes and rides in another state and directly contributes to the closing of an area. How happy would your neighbors be if I came to your house and ran a loud pipe there all day?
To be clear, I work in Motorsports. I worked in the Motogp World Championship for five years where the dB "limit" was over 130. We all wore ear protection and were mic'd up just so we could understand what adjustments we needed to make to the motorcycle. I'm not against noise, but there is a time and a place.
Riding a sled on public land is neither the time or the place. Continuing to think otherwise will just contribute to more land closures.
Rant over (again)....
Flame on.
Really??
Some of us don't have any problems with loud sleds. Where I ride the whole community rides and is supported by sledders/ATV's. Personally I like my sled quiet but just about all my friends run "mountain cans". Not like I am going to stop riding with them because of it...
Some of us don't have any problems with loud sleds. Where I ride the whole community rides and is supported by sledders/ATV's. Personally I like my sled quiet but just about all my friends run "mountain cans". Not like I am going to stop riding with them because of it...
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I respect your input, but remember, GGB takes great pride in working with sound levels for both parties. Graham does this in the boating world with the high power offshore boats. That is what makes GGB different, they have 2-cans to choose from. Graham know all about the greenies and shutting areas down. That's is why he has built the trail can to keep sound levels to and acceptable level to the people that hate it. GGB does this everyday in the boating world. You think laws and people hating loud here are tough, go over there.
I bring this up and share this video, because I want to make sure everyone knows that GGB is not like everyone else. They do take sound serious and that is why they have the two cans. GGB will say the same thing, that the mountain can is not for everyone and not for every riding area.
One last thing, if anyone has any questions or concerns please give GGB or I a call.
Murph, I again respect your feelings but I think you are just looking at the mountain can. I think the trail can would get your approval.
The last thing GGB or I want is misunderstanding out there.
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