? for Chris Burant

[PJ-Hunter]

When i am being filmed or doing jumps or something extreme, i take my backpack off. If you watch our videos you will notice that no one has packs on in any of the shots. I put my trust in my friends during those shots. If conditions are too bad we don't risk it, its not worth it.

The rest of the time off camera we all ride with packs... its just common sense.

That is what I was thinking. But somebody was bound to ask sooner or later.

I bet you that I know what the next question will be...

 

[Summit8]

Good post cookecitybud, got some thinking going on, i tend to agree with your perspective.

 

[VRod]

No questions asked... have the shovel and probe on your back. Last year 4 of us got caught in a terrain trap avalanche in Cooke City. 2 of us were partially buried and couldn't move. 1 guy was buried 2-3 ft under. Thankfully the last guy wasn't buried and had the shovel in his pack, since all of our sleds were anywhere from 3 to 10 ft under.

 

[snowww1]

MTdream, I liked your response.

Hatchers, Regarding putting your beacon in a jacket pocket. It is not the suggested place to put it since jackets can get ripped off you in an avalanche, zippers can be left open by accident, and zippers can be opened during an avalanche. Beacon is supposed to be positioned away from the rib cage, in the harness, underneath your outer most layer. The harness is by far the best place to put your beacon, just ask the beacon manufacturers.

 

[hatchers]

there is that good ole "I do it this way, so it is ok, and I aint dead yet" logic!! It is always a good argument...and gets lots of people killed due to ignorance (fill in the blank on the subject, seatbelts, drinking and driving, russian roulette, crack, bending over in prison, etc.)

thats not what i meant to say...

and i knew my horn would draw out the drum beaters

 

[MTdream]

thats not what i meant to say...

and i knew my horn would draw out the drum beaters

sometimes it is fun to just pic on you though...

 

[X2Freeride]

Cookecitybud. I don't ride with a backpack not comfortable with them. All my gear is on the sled What differance does it make where your gear is as long as you have it. I've heard all the arguments. What happens if you get seperated from your sled? Ah how is that going to happen? Well you could be in the avalanche also and not get completely buried and get out but then can't help cause you can't find your sled. Yeah you're right but what if I am in the avy and get out myself and the tumbling and carnage of the avalanche rips my backpack off and I can't find it but my sled is 20 feet away with no gear in it. The way I figure it is chances are you or I will not be in an avalanche at the same time your buddy is and it won't matter where your gear is it will only matter that you have the gear and you know how to use it.

You really think there is more of a chance that you would loose your back pack in an avalanche than your sled?!?!?! Really??? Come on now, you do realize that these back packs are not like the ones that you wore to school as a kid right. The back packs now days hang from your shoulders with straps AND have a strap that goes around your waist firmly securing it to you. There is basically ZERO chance that your back pack is going to get "blown off you" Do your self and everyone around you a favor and but your gear in a pack on your back where in belongs not on your sled.

 

[Spud]

I am surprised tha Burandt has not chimed in himself, beings as he is a SW4M member.

 

[brahm]

I am surprised tha Burandt has not chimed in himself, beings as he is a SW4M member.

past 50 posts so he can't read the thread..he hasn't paid yet... lol lol jab jab jab jk guy hehe

 

[TRIPLESWILLNEVERDIE!]

I think Burandt should be forced to wear the the heaviest ABS pack available with a crap load of extra gear to weigh him down. That would make things a little more fair for the poor guys that ride with him! He should have a shovel and probe on both the sled and in the pack. They should be made with steel blades and lead handles.LOL!

 

[xrated]

MTdream, I liked your response.

Hatchers, Regarding putting your beacon in a jacket pocket. It is not the suggested place to put it since jackets can get ripped off you in an avalanche, zippers can be left open by accident, and zippers can be opened during an avalanche. Beacon is supposed to be positioned away from the rib cage, in the harness, underneath your outer most layer. The harness is by far the best place to put your beacon, just ask the beacon manufacturers.

should it be under or over a tekvest?

 

[CoyoteGirl]

This past week I did a short film session with Sledding The West TV. I wear my pack (with shovel, probe and survival gear) 100% of the time sledding and just recently started wearing the BCA Float 30. My first thought for filming was that I should leave my pack off for ease of movement and to also allow the viewers to see my HMK gear ie promotion of that sponsor. But then I decided it was more important to ME that I promote #1) that riders (even us girls!) should be prepared and wear a pack with survival, avalanche and safety gear. #2) if in the mountains wear a avy pack.

But that was my choice. I sure as heck didn't shuck and jive like Burandt... but I was happy with the overall outcome.

 

[snowww1]

I wear my Tekvest under my jacket and wear the beacon over the Tekvest. Some riders wear a tekvest over their jacket, in that case the beacon is worn under the jacket. Hope this helps. Mike Duffy

 

[milehighassassin]

Let me wipe those tears away. Chris rides with a beacon. The fact that he doesn't ride with a backpack then really? Who cares? I think it is lame that you wine about this. When they are shooting video I would imagine there are far more people with him than you think. As long as he is the only one in danger it is a moot point.

Ideally, sure you like your gear on the person but if someon else is on the slope and you are not in the danger area, there is nothing wrong with it being on your sled.

 

[Scott]

I took a pic today.

Dan Adams.

He was wearing a pack. Looked like a Snow Pulse pack.

And he wasn't even doing anything except riding trails. He looked bored. LOL

 

[rmk 700]

someone on snowest said that some riders did some filming for discovery channel about the danger of avalanches and what you can do to increase the chances of surviving. Never saw it. Anbody here about this on here?

 

[MTdream]

Let me wipe those tears away. Chris rides with a beacon. The fact that he doesn't ride with a backpack then really? Who cares? I think it is lame that you wine about this. When they are shooting video I would imagine there are far more people with him than you think. As long as he is the only one in danger it is a moot point.

Ideally, sure you like your gear on the person but if someon else is on the slope and you are not in the danger area, there is nothing wrong with it being on your sled.

I love this BS, people think there are "Film Crews" on the hills, which conjures up images of scads of folk catching every angle, sound men, and gaffers etc...well the gaff is on us...

First, that is not reality...maybe 1-3 people in total with 2-3 with cameras...

Second, I am shocked that people making this claim have not taken time to think that those cameramen are not focused on what is happening around them, they are focused on the shot...

• Who is watching out for them?
• Who is going to watch where they are when they get caught up...notice they are right on the slopes with him (which is how they get those great shots)

Being someone who does a lot of filming...I can tell you first hand, that when your focused on the shot, you will miss the things in your peripheral vision that you normally wouldnt...The mountains require full attention, especially when you are pushing the envelope to get those killer shots...

Personally have been run over, while focused on a shot, not hurt, but was worth it...

this close, requires you to focus on one thing...the shot at hand...which means your not focused on what someone else triggered...

Additionally, if you think that camera person carried the camera, and the extra batteries, and the other stuff...is also carrying a shovel/probe for Chris, and...well that is just goofy logic...


but oh well, someone will pop off to defend it, versus allowing their preconceived notions of security and safety to be challenged...and most of us who have been here for a long time, will once again say RIP to another for they were too smart to listen...

 

[milehighassassin]

I love this BS, people think there are "Film Crews" on the hills, which conjures up images of scads of folk catching every angle, sound men, and gaffers etc...well the gaff is on us...

First, that is not reality...maybe 1-3 people in total with 2-3 with cameras...

Second, I am shocked that people making this claim have not taken time to think that those cameramen are not focused on what is happening around them, they are focused on the shot...

• Who is watching out for them?
• Who is going to watch where they are when they get caught up...notice they are right on the slopes with him (which is how they get those great shots)

Being someone who does a lot of filming...I can tell you first hand, that when your focused on the shot, you will miss the things in your peripheral vision that you normally wouldnt...The mountains require full attention, especially when you are pushing the envelope to get those killer shots...

Personally have been run over, while focused on a shot, not hurt, but was worth it...

this close, requires you to focus on one thing...the shot at hand...which means your not focused on what someone else triggered...

Additionally, if you think that camera person carried the camera, and the extra batteries, and the other stuff...is also carrying a shovel/probe for Chris, and...well that is just goofy logic...


but oh well, someone will pop off to defend it, versus allowing their preconceived notions of security and safety to be challenged...and most of us who have been here for a long time, will once again say RIP to another for they were too smart to listen...

Whatever, I've seen on his videos and photos submitted by other how many people are with him. There are plenty of people there. Another thing is with his riding, mostly boondocking the danger is far less. You'll notice when he does his big runs up hills they are far away shots. When he is going through the trees you see him blasting past the camera guy.

 

[SLY]

I recently took my level 1 with my riding partner, my son. We both learned a few things we didn't know. One of the things that was stressed as important was that if you need something that a life may depend on or for survival, it should be strapped to you, not the sled. Makes perfect sense that in a situation where you may only have 15 mins to locate and rescue a buried victim, that you would want to have the equipment at hand to do it. So if your shovel and probes are on your buried sled, that most likely doesn't have a beacon that would probably affect how much time it is gonna take to locate and dig out the victim(s) If you're playing in a meadow, trees or other no risk area then sure, take your pack off and have fun but if there is any risk the pack should be on.......you may even look like you know what you are doing

 

[Scott]

Dan Adams wears an avy pack when trail riding.
I took this pic yesterday just for this thread. LOL