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First Ride Review

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nuggetau

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I put on 82 miles of road and very gentle boondocking yesterday. Here are my observations and some misc. temp readings.

I stopped every 10 miles to take the QD belt temps, the first 50 miles the outside of the belt was around 190 degrees, inside around 195. By the end of the ride (82 miles) the belt temp dropped to 170 outside, 175 inside. The belt flings off what I would describe as gray belly button lint.

I blocked off the clutch side footwell and left the exhaust side stock. The clutch side was dry, but the QD had snow and ice around it. So, I will block off the exhaust side today.

The 2 holes in the bulkhead allow snow to get in and it creates a generous puddle in the bottom of the nose pan. Need to plug that today!

Motor was 2 pulls to start for about the first 50 miles, then began to start with one pull.

The motor would load up(slight blubber) after sitting for a few minutes, after about 40 miles it seemed to resolve.

I checked the clutch temp at every stop, secondary was consistently around 85 degrees, primary sheave outboard side 95 degrees, primary inboard 105 degrees, belt when new 158 degrees, belt when broken in 145 degrees.

82 miles, 10.1 gallon of fuel, 8 MPG.

My previous sled was the '11 XP, I could never seems to get the XP to turn, it seemed to push thru every turn, out of the crate the pro turns much better on the trail.

I have heard others say they think the XP has better suspension on rough trail, I road some rough trail yesterday and I thought it was about a toss up(although the woops were not as large as later in the season). Maybe the Pro's shocks sack out really fast?

The power seems adequate, but not anything special.

The sled comes up on edge like nothing I have ever ridden, after riding the XP it's like suddenly hitting the easy button. :face-icon-small-ton

No missing QD belt cogs, no shaft bulging or seperation.............yet!
 
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My fuel mileage was about a full tank for 60 miles the first ride out. Second trip fuel mileage was much better. About double that ( didn't ride a full tank second ride but for the same trip I had half a tank left where as the first ride I was on E). Yours may improve as well

I'd say I'm in the 12-13 now, next long trip I will get a better figure
 
Great review! A post like this helps build confidence in our machines. I wondered what the stuff coming off the QD belt would look like. What are your thoughts about blocking off the footwells? Is there a potential negative to it? I've wondered if a guy could use Frog Skin somehow so you at least get venting. Thoughts?
 
Great review! A post like this helps build confidence in our machines. I wondered what the stuff coming off the QD belt would look like. What are your thoughts about blocking off the footwells? Is there a potential negative to it? I've wondered if a guy could use Frog Skin somehow so you at least get venting. Thoughts?


My opinion is that a wet clutch compartment is a recipe for belt failure. The water puddles under the primary, it gets spattered onto the primary while riding which causes slippage, which causes heat and the belt goes bang! The enormous gaps in the footwells on this sled is a total failure, however I don't think it is necessary to block off everything. If you just seal the bottom 2-3" it prevents almost all the snow ingestion and yet still gives air flow. Frog skin would likely tear pretty fast with your foot constantly banging against the plate and trying to force snow through the holes.

As fragile as the QD belt is. I don't want snow and ice anywhere near it!
 
Nice write up, thanks!:face-icon-small-hap
Good to see an unbiased report. The water puddle your talking about, is that below the Y-pipe?
 
Silly comment........That quick-drive belt is not fragile by any means.

Aaron



I beg to differ, it is in fact so delicate that they don't even want you to remove the spare belt from the box until install. They warn you not to backbend, twist or otherwise mishandle the belt. That qualifies as delicate in my book.

If you want to go out and take off in the morning with a chunk of ice under the QD belt that is your choice, I would rather not.
 
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thanks for the report

i agree that snow and ice should not be in with the belt drive but they are tough i think the bending is more about cracking the internal belt material not over all fragilility like something that has super strength but if bent past a 90 deg. i will want to crack

for example was riding last year and my buddies xp was doing wierd chit
we thought the drivers were slipping so we checked the track tention it was fine so we check his C3 belt drive and sure enough he'd been kicking snow in the foot wells and it was pushing up and into the belt compartment :face-icon-small-sho we didn't have a good way to plug the hole so we cleaned it out and kept riding (gotta ride when its deep!) but the snow kept pyling up and dumping onto the bottom pulley and then it would get sucked into the belt and the belt would jump many teeth
this happend many times that day some in full power climbes

NO STRIPED TEETH ! that told me those belts are tough as hell
 
Great right up NUG, thank you for taking the time to post.

A thought on the QD new belt handling, I will have a spare for sure, just because it is another belt anything can happen. As far as for the miss handling of one, IMO I think if you would install your spare QD belt and brake it in, then you should be able to store it alot easier. This way you would not disrupt the fibers in the belt before they are bonded.
 
on my '13, i turned up my oiler til there is only 2 threads showing on the screw now, ran it, measured consumption, 29:1, I'm happy with that.
 
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I have a 2012 assault that had a had a top end fail at 250 miles last year and I have two buddys that had the same thing happen. Does anyone make a oil delete kit for the 800 cfi engine so i don't have to worry getting enough oil?
 
Check out the footwell screens made by madsigntist here on SW. Used them on my 12, will have a set on my 13. Same airflow, no snow. At the end of the season they still looked new. And they are inexpensive. And he ships fast. And easy to install.

How do I find madsigntist and these footwell screens? Would like to order them.
Thanks.
 
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