Evol Rs or X1s?

[IQRIDR]

I have not noticed the weight either. Like I said before, the X1's are 2.5 lbs more on each side over the stock WE's. I figure about 1.0 heavier than the Fox Evol R on each side. My water bottle weighs that much.



I found this to be true. That's why I roll my eyes when people talk about the adjustability factors. Once my shocks are setup I ride the piss out of them. The one exception is going from the winter fluff to the spring concrete. I'll sometimes work on compression and/or rebound.

Roll your eyes? Let me explain then. Where I ride, the snow conditions from day to day, week to week, can vary from deep bottomless fluffy pow, to deep, concrete-heavy wet snow, to solid-base snow with freshies. The weather of coastal Alaska brings us so many different conditions all year long. So one day, we might be boondocking through the trees in a snowstorm, the next we might be riding slightly set up snow above treeline, dropping and jumping. My shock setup will vary each day depending what those conditions are.

When I had my stock WE shocks (sled is an '11 assault rmk) those changes would just be cranking the clicker or backing it off. Anywhere between click 2 and 16. Same with Exits.

When I went to the Evol R's, I bring my shock pump and am adjusting compression, rebound, and air pressure to meet the conditions each day before a ride. I might start the day on lower settings then go up 25 PSI and more compression and rebound when we start riding hard and hitting drops or jumps. It's not like just cranking a clicker sometimes to get it where you want it. And it's not one but 2 air chambers.

In this respect the Evols do require more fine tuning, no? But, they are what is on my sled right now for a reason

Just trying to better explain what I meant.

 

[AndrettiDog]

That's fine if that's what you need to do. I don't. I can set up my shocks and be happy most of the day. But then again...my shocks don't take air.

 

[green_denali]

Roll your eyes? Let me explain then. Where I ride, the snow conditions from day to day, week to week, can vary from deep bottomless fluffy pow, to deep, concrete-heavy wet snow, to solid-base snow with freshies. The weather of coastal Alaska brings us so many different conditions all year long. So one day, we might be boondocking through the trees in a snowstorm, the next we might be riding slightly set up snow above treeline, dropping and jumping. My shock setup will vary each day depending what those conditions are.

When I had my stock WE shocks (sled is an '11 assault rmk) those changes would just be cranking the clicker or backing it off. Anywhere between click 2 and 16. Same with Exits.

When I went to the Evol R's, I bring my shock pump and am adjusting compression, rebound, and air pressure to meet the conditions each day before a ride. I might start the day on lower settings then go up 25 PSI and more compression and rebound when we start riding hard and hitting drops or jumps. It's not like just cranking a clicker sometimes to get it where you want it. And it's not one but 2 air chambers.

In this respect the Evols do require more fine tuning, no? But, they are what is on my sled right now for a reason

Just trying to better explain what I meant.

Well said

 

[Matte Murder]

Great thread!

 

[F-Bomb]

Just to add some experience on the EVOL R system for the PRO. I rarely mess with my air settings in the field. 5 lbs in any chamber for me a HUGE felt response. I'm not a big drop guy movie star just a regular free rider who hauls *** on a few miles of bumpity trail getting to our favorite free ride areas. My deal is basically a couple clicks on the rebound adjusters for the front shocks when I'm on a whooped up trail and then back to my standard all ride setting just before we head off into the abyss. Simple stuff and offers a big plus for ride comfort and hauling butt performance on the trail. Off trail things become more about how your rear suspension is setup for the sled, rider, and conditions of use. Just the ability to do these minor adjustments is a huge plus especially if you are finicky about your performance. Having ran exceptional quality shocks and then also having to ride customers stock stuff while they ride the demo it becomes really clear how good this FOX system is. I contend that most riders just deal with what they have for the day and quite possibly most don't even realize what is available to them.

 

[FCR112]

TTT

Who else has experience with either on their Pro!

Swaybar's installed or no?

 

[hyperduc]

TTT

Who else has experience with either on their Pro!

Swaybar's installed or no?

x'1s on a pro, no sway bar.

 

[FCR112]

Hey Evol R guys, Is it necessary to get these shocks valved for your weight/style like the original floats? And if so is that included in the price when you buy a Evol R System new? (Front Evol R's and the R/ zero pro rear combo?)

Thanks

 

[AndrettiDog]

Hey Evol R guys, Is it necessary to get these shocks valved for your weight/style like the original floats? And if so is that included in the price when you buy a Evol R System new? (Front Evol R's and the R/ zero pro rear combo?)

Thanks

When I bought them for my D8 they were not setup for my weight. Just adjusted with the air pump.

 

[colorado_matt]

This is straight off of ZBROZ website. Just thought I would share if there is anyone on the fence that is hesitant to try the spring setup.

All Exit shocks come with our ride quality guarantee. If for any reason your not satisfied with the way they are performing. Just call us within the first 30 days of use. We will re spring, and re valve until you are satisfied, no charge .

 

[freak485]

This is straight off of ZBROZ website. Just thought I would share if there is anyone on the fence that is hesitant to try the spring setup.

All Exit shocks come with our ride quality guarantee. If for any reason your not satisfied with the way they are performing. Just call us within the first 30 days of use. We will re spring, and re valve until you are satisfied, no charge .

Thats pretty nice am still 50/50 with what set up am going to go with yet.

 

[AndrettiDog]

This is straight off of ZBROZ website. Just thought I would share if there is anyone on the fence that is hesitant to try the spring setup.

All Exit shocks come with our ride quality guarantee. If for any reason your not satisfied with the way they are performing. Just call us within the first 30 days of use. We will re spring, and re valve until you are satisfied, no charge .

Yep, I took advantage of this. I got them on and didn't like how stiff they were so I sent them back. I filled out the form but also talked to someone on the phone. They were quick and they came back just the way I wanted.

 

[F-Bomb]

I didn't like the way my FOX Factory Racing Shox provided EVOL suspension worked either....so I twisted my clickers three spots, subtracted 5 lbs of air and continued on my daily ride. WORD

Just funning gang don't get all bent...both products are excellent!

 

[FCR112]

Yeah it would be a real easy decision if one was FREE

 

[freak485]

Yeah it would be a real easy decision if one was FREE

This!

 

[F-Bomb]

I might point out that you guys got "free" shocks with your sleds as well. They just suck! Also nothing is really free. What is your time worth? Mine appears to be worth about $0.10 an hour on some of these sled parts. But at least I'm working? weeeeeeeeee

 

[freak485]

F-bomb...did you just put the Evol Rs on your or did you also get the rear?

 

[F-Bomb]

It's got Evol R's up front and then Evol R and a Fox Zero PRO rear plus Renton Coil Spring is letting me test a prototype Ti progressive rate rear spring. IT'S REALLY COOL

It's $855 from Carl's for the rear shock setup but with the standard steel spring from Fox that we put in place of the walker shocks in the stock suspension arm config and settings. Very impressive upgrade not in felt ride comfort but in balanced control under power.

 

[mountainhorse]

Fox's recent rebuild vid shows that you can use either nitrogen or air in the IFP chamber (not as critical as for coil overs and leak less anyway). Any syn gear oil in the 75-85 weight range works well as they contain "slip" aids that improve seal life and dramatically reduce stiction in air shocks. I'm using Valvoline Syn 75W-90 which is worlds better than Fox Float fluid (dirty lil secret I learned from Chris at Enduro Seals).

Have FUN!

G

Gman,

Thank you for the tip...I'll have to try the valvoline oil for sure.

What IFP are you talking about... Did FOX change to a shrader valve on the IFP in the shock as opposed to the needle-injection port they have been using for years in the Float/Float2/R-EVOL/X-EVOL??

Do you have a link to the vid you are talking about?

Thanks,
MH











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[gman086]

Gman,

Thank you for the tip...I'll have to try the valvoline oil for sure.

What IFP are you talking about... Did FOX change to a shrader valve on the IFP in the shock as opposed to the needle-injection port they have been using for years in the Float/Float2/R-EVOL/X-EVOL??

Do you have a link to the vid you are talking about?

Thanks,
MH











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My bad; two of Fox's competitors changed the ifp fill valve to take screw-in adapters for air pumps (Marzocchi and RS). One of them has the vid explaining air is no big deal vs N2 in the ifp chamber of air shocks. Fox hasn't changed... yet.

Have FUN!

G MAN