more is always better
right? I have never heard anyone complain about having too much power....
right? I have never heard anyone complain about having too much power....
Evo 215 flash is totally awesome!
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Good to know thanks!
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Turbo11T
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I will buy a 215 reflash and trade you if your not happy with your bc purchase
haha lol im sure ill be fine.
I just wanted to say again how Happy I am with EVOLUTION. If your on the fence whether you want a 215 tune or a even a BC kit you should get off the fence before you turn into humptydumpty.
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could you get away without changing the clutching? and who would be the best to get the refash through
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Turbo11T
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Depends where you live, In the midwest go right to EVO, in the west you have EDGE powersports in Utah, Racinstation in Idaho. In Western CA you have White Knuckle Motorsports.
As far clutching your going to need to at very least add some weight.
On the 215 flash just run good 91 octane and you will be fine.
I highly recommend an ethonal neutralizer products like Starton in every tank to help offset the damage that the ethonal will cause.
I highly recommend an ethonal neutralizer products like Starton in every tank to help offset the damage that the ethonal will cause.
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Turbo11T
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215-220 hp with 2.5 exhaust. I think if you look his dyno sheet shows that he ws testing with the 2.5 exhaust.
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Turbo11T
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In an interesting note.
I have a 1976 pantera that makes 24ftlbs of torque at the track. That is the same exact amount of tq increase over stock! TQ is what you feel not hp. So if with 144ftlb over 120ftlbs it is like having a engine out of a 380lb sled that would go 80-85mph. All that without adding any weight.
For any of you that think that 35hp/24ftlbs increase over stock that the 215 tune will give is not much hopefully you see now that it is substanial. I think when the videos start surfacing of the 215 reflash there are going to be alot of people very impressed. Alot of two stroke guys spending $4500 to get a true 200 hp.
So moral of the story. . . Pull that stinky money out of your pocket and get some product for your 1100. The yamaha 4 stroke guys should not be the only ones having alot of fun. . .
Ok now I step down off my soap box! lol
I have a 1976 pantera that makes 24ftlbs of torque at the track. That is the same exact amount of tq increase over stock! TQ is what you feel not hp. So if with 144ftlb over 120ftlbs it is like having a engine out of a 380lb sled that would go 80-85mph. All that without adding any weight.
For any of you that think that 35hp/24ftlbs increase over stock that the 215 tune will give is not much hopefully you see now that it is substanial. I think when the videos start surfacing of the 215 reflash there are going to be alot of people very impressed. Alot of two stroke guys spending $4500 to get a true 200 hp.
So moral of the story. . . Pull that stinky money out of your pocket and get some product for your 1100. The yamaha 4 stroke guys should not be the only ones having alot of fun. . .
Ok now I step down off my soap box! lol
Yes, for maximum performance. The 215hp reflash was built to run on 93 octane to get the 215hp it was designed to deliver. All the EVO products come with a recommended octane level, usually either 91, 93 or 100 octane. For maximum performance you need to use the the octane your reflash is rated at. All the dyno sheets and octane ratings are in the catalog. Can you run 91 in the 215? yes, but you may not see 215hp.
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Thanks, just went and re-read the EVO catalog.
I believe my local Chevron has ethanol free 93 octane.
Appreciate the info, just wanted to ensure no detonation issues -great to read that the EVO program compensates octane with proper timing.
Let it snow!
"Yes, for maximum performance. The 215hp reflash was built to run on 93 octane to get the 215hp it was designed to deliver. All the EVO products come with a recommended octane level, usually either 91, 93 or 100 octane. For maximum performance you need to use the the octane your reflash is rated at. All the dyno sheets and octane ratings are in the catalog. Can you run 91 in the 215? yes, but you may not see 215hp."
Isn't it advertised as a 91 octane set up for 215hp???? I was wondering this as I got the 215 reflash and the sticker on it when I got the ecu back said 93octane on it. If that's true I don't like that its advertised as a 91octane set up. The reason I went with it is because i thought it was a 91 set up. I don't have access to anything higher than 91 except av gas. Don't get me wrong I have really enjoyed my Evo stuff so far but I don't think it's right that now info comes out that 91 won't get me what I paid for. A little clarity on this would be appreciated.
Isn't it advertised as a 91 octane set up for 215hp???? I was wondering this as I got the 215 reflash and the sticker on it when I got the ecu back said 93octane on it. If that's true I don't like that its advertised as a 91octane set up. The reason I went with it is because i thought it was a 91 set up. I don't have access to anything higher than 91 except av gas. Don't get me wrong I have really enjoyed my Evo stuff so far but I don't think it's right that now info comes out that 91 won't get me what I paid for. A little clarity on this would be appreciated.
A little clarity: We are calling the 215 Mountain Tune a 93 Octane tune at high elevation (8000'+). At sea level or modest elevations, it is a 91 octane tune. It is a 91 Octane tune at 8000'+ elevation as well, HOWEVER, the problem we have at high elevations is the stock turbo is overspeeding and producing more heat than at low elevation. This is complicated by the fact that in the mountains, we deal with slower forward speeds and the hood full of snow which means that the IC gets very little air flow. We have found that we have MUCH more consistent performance with 93 Octane vs 91. Our programming can pull 4.4 degrees of timing if deto is detected before an octane code is set off. You are giving up substantial power with 4+ degrees of timing pulled. Also, the programming can add over 2 degrees of timing over baseline if there is no detonation detected. So theoretically a very happy detonation free engine can use 7 degrees more timing than an unhappy one. 93 Octane makes for a happy engine. Remember, 100% stock engines with stock programming would benefit from 93 octane at high altitude - we have seen 100% stock machines set off the octane light at high altitudes under certain conditions.
If you want the maximum performance we have programmed into the tune, use 93. If you are stuck with 91 Octane fuel or don't feel like mixing a little race fuel, it is not a problem.
You will get 215 hp under most conditions, but as soon as you do a long pull with the hood full of snow (on 91 octane), the intake temps will spike and the programming will do what it has been programmed to do.
MIKE
EVO
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b1dodge
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My boy Mike...... wicked smart, and why the piggyback systems and the lofty flat land ECU HP numbers, will never exist in the mountains without a turbo upgrade
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Mike- for the ones that have no access to 93/ as most pumps don't- what ratio do we need to mix- what to mix- to acheave the desired 93 magic octane..
Thanks
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Thanks
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