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Electric turbos super charger what do you think? IT COULD WORK...... maybe?

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brent9k

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Has anyone used or been around an electric turbo-super charger?

I have done some research and found some interesting results. You can buy a crapy electric turbo off ebay for less then $100. ( rated 250 cfm @ 1-3 PSI)
E- Ram makes one for $300 (CFM 300 @ 2-5 psi)
Thorton , $120 (CFM ? @ 8psi)
And some German company, $2500 , 400 CFM 12psi brushless speed controlled 3 phase

I wanted to put one on my sled and run it off the light system. I know if I can come up with 2-3 PSIG the sled should run much better. Adding 3 PSI will give me around 13% more air.

A lot of people say “what you gain in HP you will loose trying to keep your battery charged from loading your elec system” I know polaris run on a shunt system so the generator is running a Max all the time. I also know that the generator can not produce the wattage I need to run the turbo full time, so I want to rectify the system and charge a battery pack that will let the turbo fun for 1-5 minutes.

I would like to use it like NOS. (off/on) I don’t need the BIG HP so low boost should work. Then I don’t need to deal with bottle.


WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Im looking for any information that would help me decide if this is worth my time.

PS
Don’t tell me to

Cut the head
Put pipes on it
Port it
Or run NOS
I have all the, ICE nitrous SUCKS
 
I've never seen anything like this, nor do I have any kind of technical advice. But I would ask yourself this question:

If it's that cheap...how good can it work?

Sounds like cheap informercial-type crap to me. Do they give you some mighty putty to build the mounting bracket?
 
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I researched this pretty extensively about a year or so ago. The problem was finding a power source with enough juice to spin an axial type fan with enough RPM and force to really make a difference. The loss is greater than the gain.
 
It want work. A twostroke need packpresure i the pipe to work whith turbo. Thats why supercharger dont work ither.
 
http://www.globalautoshop.com/image...B_Performance_Line_Electric_Supercharger2.jpg


http://www.electricsupercharger.com/







I think the reason it is so inexpensive, is because you don’t need to make it hold oil pressure, it only has a compressor NO turbine/ exhaust side, and it dose not need to withstand great heat. So it dose not need to have a metal housing. That’s why its cheep.

As for power it, that is why I want to put a battery pack on a charging system
A polaris 800 electrical system makes about 900 watts that can continuously run a 1.5 motor. At 75 amps at 12 volts. By tagging a two small 7.2 v battery packs to it I can get over 90 amps at 14.4 volts. That almost 1,300 watts and 2HP.


As for
NICKNAME

HA HA AH that must be a joke!
 
The only thing it will do is drain your weekends liquor funds...

At idle you might possibly see a hair of boost, anything more and its just a restriction...






Are you just assuming your right or is there something I am missing?




If you had a unit that produced 250 CFM ( not unreasonable) you should never get to a negative state.

800cc @ 8000rpm = 6,400,000 CCM

6,400,000 ccm = 390551.936 CIM correction is CC x 0.06102374 = CI

390551.936 cim = 226.01 CFM correction is CI X .0005787 = CFM

An 800 cc motor @ 100% uses 226 CFM most engines only run 80-90% efficient

With a 250cfm turbo on an 800 cc sled you would have more then 10% more boost then what your sled can use on its best day naturally separated?

So how could this have negative results? renegade800
 
Wrong

Polaris stator will only put out 280 watts max, and if you try to run the stator at the full 280 watts they burn up in no time from to much heat.

Trust me there is NO way to run and elect. turbo on a sled without pulling a sled full of batteries behind it.

mabee next you should try and boost it with a leaf blower.

sorry dude ain't gonna happen

Rob
 
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Are you serious the polaris has a 900w stator? Are you sure that isnt the ignition coils too...?

At any rate, thats alot of power. even if you had 900w on the lighting coil you wouldnt be able to run any instruments or lights. the power just wouldnt be there. Im sure you must know that putting a battery on it will only help for a couple of seconds (depending on the batterys AH rating)

Also, take into account with a 2stroke you end up blowing out the exhaust half(ok maybe not quite, but you get the point) of what you put in since you will always have the fact that the intake and exhaust ports open at the same time. I think an electric 'superchager' would make this even worse, since you dont have as much pressure in the exhaust as you would with a turbo(drive pressure). So, long story short you will need to calculate MORE than the 100% VE CFM...

I think their is a reason that people run turbos capable of 500+CFM on their sleds!
 
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I used to have this crazy *** neighbor that had this same idea for his suposed dragster. Said he had it up and running but could never prove it.

It wont work on a two stroke and would be even be impractical on a four stroke. There are cheaper and better ways of making power.
 
dam it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I still think the technolagy is out there.

The reasion i started this thred is because i put a duct fan motor ( R/C plane motor) on my 21cc scooter and it kicks ***. I was hopping this idea would work on a bigger scale.
 
just do it

do it if it works your the man if not we all know better this sport is for poeple who think out side the box you dont need anyones appoval just make it work!:beer;
 
mabee next you should try and boost it with a leaf blower.

How many hp would and what speed would a guy need??? Also would you need one with a vacum, so you had turbo'd reverse??

That would be incredible, you could suck fuel for it right out of the sled tank... :D
 
It probably could be done with a leaf blower. Just a little hard to control the boost, you would have to rig up some sort of wastegate on it.

You could even go as far as buying a tripple carb cable and running one of the cables to the leaf blower to rev up the engine with the sleds engine :D
 
Polaris stator will only put out 280 watts max, and if you try to run the stator at the full 280 watts they burn up in no time from to much heat.

Wonder how much it produces that gets burned up in the shunt regulator.

Anyway, 280W @ 14V = ~20 Ampere, anyone know how much those fans draw?

Like most others , I think it might me a little eh.. impractical to get to work on a 2-stroke, would be much easier to try out on a 4-stroke.
 
Think even simpler. How about a bottle of compressed air? Requires zero draw fron the engine. Mickey Thompson ran this on a dragster "back in the day", it was never perfected but it did work.
 
What about something that helps to build boost early, like electricity or compressed air, but lets off as the engine takes over? The primary problem I consistently see and notice with both of my turbo sleds is lower bottom end torque, while the mid and top end are unbelievable!

Possible.....???? Available....NO!
 
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