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Electric cars? General Motors are IDIOTS deserve bankruptcy!

Are a lot of people on here that state that an electric vehicle would not be an option for them from rural areas? Do you think you living situation and needs would be the same for people that live in more suburban areas?
 
Cheaper yes, faster well sure, but cleaner? What is this based on?

the amount of energy and resources required to build the batteries required, and the electricity required (which is A LOT) will most likely come from your local coal power plant.

with the new technology being put into diesels, they are now becoming cleaner than nearly all of the current gasoline engines.
 
the amount of energy and resources required to build the batteries required, and the electricity required (which is A LOT) will most likely come from your local coal power plant.
coal is cleaner then gasoline, which is cleaner than diesels

with the new technology being put into diesels, they are now becoming cleaner than nearly all of the current gasoline engines.
that is not correct, as there are many gasoline engines that meet the PZEV standards, and I don't think there are any diesel vehicles that do, neither are there any diesel motors that meet the SULEV standards either.
 
I have a question...how does a heating system work on a electric car? I would imagine an electric heater? That must drain the batteries quick? :face-icon-small-con
Even urban commuters encounter long commutes when the weather turns snowy. What would the outcome be for commuters this past winter in many of the big cities where traffic was snarled and thousands of people relied on their cars for survival, some for days. I spent 4 hours going 5 miles in 15 degree weather in Seattle this winter just driving home from work. Glad I wasn't in a electric car!
Might seem like a stretch but it's really not...it gets darned cold in a lot of major cities across the country. Are people just expected to not use a $40,000 car 6 months of the year because it's cold out? Is there any backup system for heat?
 
I have a question...how does a heating system work on a electric car? I would imagine an electric heater? That must drain the batteries quick? :face-icon-small-con
Yep, that would be correct.

Even urban commuters encounter long commutes when the weather turns snowy. What would the outcome be for commuters this past winter in many of the big cities where traffic was snarled and thousands of people relied on their cars for survival, some for days. I spent 4 hours going 5 miles in 15 degree weather in Seattle this winter just driving home from work. Glad I wasn't in a electric car!
Might seem like a stretch but it's really not...it gets darned cold in a lot of major cities across the country. Are people just expected to not use a $40,000 car 6 months of the year because it's cold out? Is there any backup system for heat?
I think you should quantify what a lot of the major cities means. Yes, there is a lot of locations where electric vehicles would not be ideal, but does that negate the many large urban areas where they would work perfectly? Thinking about LA, the south west, the south east.

Though your point has merit, "one vehicle that doesn't work good in lots of snowy weather" argument was seen in my family. This past winter I took the wife into work on the Jeep because it was the best vehicle to get into areas with all of the snow, and we have chains for it. Does that mean that the other vehicle we have should be sold?

There are benefits and disadvantages with most every vehicle, as well as there are some who are willing to work around the disadvantages to utilize the benefits.
 
I wouldn't want to be stuck in traffic in LA in 100 degrees with a baby in the car either. To be practical and safe it seems a hybrid is the best option.
 
I wouldn't want to be stuck in traffic in LA in 100 degrees with a baby in the car either. To be practical and safe it seems a hybrid is the best option.
You have a point, but babies are born and do live in areas without air conditioning...

You are right though, a hybrid, and specifically a series hybrid would be the best solution, kind of like the Volt.
 
I'll just keep my real vehicles, Thank you.

ME TOO!! The real vehicles that work in all situations whether it be in hot or cold and are not limited to around town communting and can be taken cross country if I so desire, without all the hassles that the electric car brings up. Oh and hey, I already own one of these and would therefore not have to buy something else or in addition to!!
 
Another thing to think about.....when someone buys a hybrid/electric "green" car, unless they have their previous car destroyed (and lets face it, 99% don't....they trade them in), they have done nothing for the environment except put another car on the road. The "green" car has to "replace" the gas guzzler to be effective, not be "in addition to" the gas guzzler.
 
Another thing to think about.....when someone buys a hybrid/electric "green" car, unless they have their previous car destroyed (and lets face it, 99% don't....they trade them in), they have done nothing for the environment except put another car on the road. The "green" car has to "replace" the gas guzzler to be effective, not be "in addition to" the gas guzzler.
You stopped short though.. Does the vehicle the first person replace, replace a gas guzzler? If not, what about the second person? Or third. Cars are continually removed from the roads, due to old age, collisions, and catastrophic failures. Otherwise all of the vehicles we had ever bought would be around somewhere.... I know where quite a few of mine are, and they are not on the road.

The changes with electric vehicles will be incremental. Yah, they aren't perfect, and aren't for everybody, but at least the energy that you put in them doesn't come from oil, and from a country besides our own.
 
I've seen several Chevy Volts testing on I-70 outside of Denver going up Eisenhower. FTR, they seem to be moving along fine at 11k feet.

The Volt will sell itself. There were commercials a while back for them. Until you get your inventory up pretty high there is no point to advertise when demand already surpasses supply.
 
? Why not? Are you saying that because a current electric vehicle is not optimal for your situation that it won't be optimal for anyone else? Does everyone everywhere live like you?

I'm kinda glad you stick around.
Your goofy replies keep things rolling along & threads towards the top of the page.
 
? Why not? Are you saying that because a current electric vehicle is not optimal for your situation that it won't be optimal for anyone else? Does everyone everywhere live like you?

You do have a point on that one, lol. :beer;

hell, I could use one of these things as a runabout if I really wanted to.... but what fun would that be? I like having the hood of my truck being taller than the roofs of all the cars around me... makes for a good view of things:face-icon-small-hap
 
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