Don't waste your money on College

[POLZIN]

That was my point, I Tryed MANY time to tell the guy how and why it would not work but he knew better.



I have said it many times the best engineer's are the one who have goten there hands dirty building things BEFORE they start designing things. Some times they don't get it when you tell there there really is know way to make that at a price that is even close to reality.
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Amen! thats the truth! Im inthe middle of a project right now and a dumbarse engineer will not listen or admit he does not know. I have tried to be civil but at some point I am going to unload on him! Hes a moron but I have grease on my pants and no paper so .... well you know the rest .He is going to feel so stupid when I prove him wrong(Again) . He is just one of dozens and dozens over the years that have earned this rep for there profession.

 

[nitromaniac]

Glad I got my masters and am working on professional certifications. Having taught for 2 years in the college setting, it makes sense. More people are going to college, competition is greater for a job, so companies can low ball offers.

Those engineers are all breeds too, some are way too smart for their own good. Luckily I like to take stuff apart and get my hands dirty just for fun, all my "real" work involves spreadsheets

 

[Gaz]

While I agree that college isn't for everyone I think that the article may be somewhat skewed. Basically they are saying that this computer programmer gal got laid off in 2002. Not really too surprising as most of the IT boom was already over by then and the IT industry was hiring people with certificiations over people with degrees since they could get them cheaper. It's basic economics where there are loads of graduates competing for fewer jobs and you know what the law of supply and demand says. Also, while the overall US economy has been performing well for the 10 years or so, the general move by most businesses has been to cut costs to better compete in an increasingly competitive global market. Payroll is a huge expense to any business regardless of how big said business is.

Anyway...that's my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.

~Gaz

 

[Wade]

Yha, and I've seen the other side of the coin.

Some guy threatening your life, cause your new automated production tester does their job in 1/10 the time. And, got my butt threatened because I hand loaded 500 5" artillery rounds through a new loader, in half the time they convinced their boss it took (pure physical labor). Also found hex head bolts cut off and superglued into the hole, cause someone was too lazy to do it right.

But, I've also seen the stupid engineer who's tolerance stack up was so screwed up, that the final pieces needed 0.001 mils tolerance, for a simple part. And, he was too lazy to rebalance the stackup. Or the engineer that contaminated 100,000 refrigerator pumps, to save a nickel with cheap gas.

Can we just agree that there's a bunch of stupid people in the world? Some are engineers and some aren't.

 

[Luke The Drifter]

Interesting article. I found that while in my senior year at high school, the school counselors really tried pressuring me in going to university/college. I had/have no idea as to what I'd take for classes. I decided that I wanted to get into my heavy duty mechanic apprenticeship and although it took me a few months and 2 different shops I'm finally where I want to be and I busted my a$$ to get here. So far I love it, I've always loved tinkering with machines and getting to work on heavy equipment is pretty cool too. Now heres where it gets pretty sweet. The current company I work for not only pays for my schooling, they also pay me a standard 40hr week while I'm IN school (I work almost 50hrs a week usually). How cool is that? Don't get me wrong, I think college/university is great but its not for me at the moment. My old man told me that if I wasn't going to school, I was working. I said fine, I'm getting a trade, rather than work a minimum wage job for a while and try and decide on what I want to take and possibly not enjoy it once I'm in it. Around here it seems that a lot of people fresh out of high school are going into the trades due to the demand for them. Kinda says something when the UofA drops their entrance requirements to lure more people into post secondary education.

 

[Gaz]

Can we just agree that there's a bunch of stupid people in the world? Some are engineers and some aren't.

Agree...I think we've got a winner with this answer.

 

[onlyrotax]

Is it my imagination or does every thread that ruffy posts on turn ugly like this one ???

 

[ruffryder]

Is it my imagination or does every thread that ruffy posts on turn ugly like this one ???

Cause and effect I guess? I try not to be mean when discussing topics, but I guess I tend to come off like a jerk a lot..... errrr most of the time.

Here's to the internet!


Oh, and this one turned ugly? You might want to stay away from the Whoopie topic then. It is not there yet, but it might be.

 

[SNOW JW]

Not to change the subject but what does a good 4 year College cost a guy now days??? Books and everything minus rent and food.

 

[ruffryder]

Not to change the subject but what does a good 4 year College cost a guy now days??? Books and everything minus rent and food.

Mine was 6k a year for 3 years... though it was a small school, and that was in state. For out of state, it is doubled.