Don't void your warranty

[Tec]

The motor in my Pro let go with 800 miles on the OD, It was replaced with a new short block in 14 days of bringing the sled back to the dealer which was great! I asked the dealer to look up and see what a new motor would cost if your warranty was denied, they came up with $4,300 for a short block WTF is Polaris thinking? It's a 2 cylinder 2 stroke, not a 8 cylinder diesel.

I know most engines are rebuild able, but I've seen a few Pro motors when the block was split where the crank and rod had punched through the block right next to the water pump.

 

[Snodawg]

Ouch! Looks like I'll be keeping my sled stock for another 3 years. Good thing it rocks stock!!!

 

[aebsledder]

The motor in my Pro let go with 800 miles on the OD, It was replaced with a new short block in 14 days of bringing the sled back to the dealer which was great! I asked the dealer to look up and see what a new motor would cost if your warranty was denied, they came up with $4,300 for a short block WTF is Polaris thinking? It's a 2 cylinder 2 stroke, not a 8 cylinder diesel.

I know most engines are rebuild able, but I've seen a few Pro motors when the block was split where the crank and rod had punched through the block right next to the water pump.

Is that what happened to yours?

 

[Tec]

Is that what happened to yours?

No ,My mag side crank bearing seized at low rpm and released, I restarted the sled to turn it around and road about 40 yards and it seized again, from there I towed it out and brought it into the shop. I've seen 6 stock motors fail, but only 2 of them had heavy block damage, must have been WOT bearing failures?

 

[skibreeze]

I want to know where I can get a new diesel motor for only $4,300.

 

[94fordguy]

With the increasing number of bearing failures in sub-1000 mile machines increasing, it may be a good idea to up the oiler system... everyone says how little oil the motor uses, bearings still need oil.

 

[SaskRMK]

You must have a great dealer! Last time i heard anything about our dealer it was with my friends 900. it took them 3 weeks to replace the oiler cable and TPS, The valves were missing clamps, oil splattered everywhere. Needless to say i have NEVER taken my machine there and never plan on it.

 

[800 hillbilly]

I bet an 800 E-Tech is more to replace!!!

 

[nethawk]

Mine did the same with 1140 miles on it. Seized got it going on one cylinder turned around and that was it.

 

[rmkboxer]

check your oil usage, if you are not going through much oil it will happen again!!! I call bs on the a shortblock costing $4300. went on babbits priced out pistons, crank, and cases. no seals though and it is $1782. Add cylinders and head to it and its $2773. you will need seals and gaskets so throw in another $100 on top of it. they are full of crap and are a rip off if they are charging that much. I would say 5 hrs at the most to R&R the motor and rebuild it.

 

[skibreeze]

check your oil usage, if you are not going through much oil it will happen again!!! I call bs on the a shortblock costing $4300. went on babbits priced out pistons, crank, and cases. no seals though and it is $1782. Add cylinders and head to it and its $2773. you will need seals and gaskets so throw in another $100 on top of it. they are full of crap and are a rip off if they are charging that much. I would say 5 hrs at the most to R&R the motor and rebuild it.

I agree with everything except the 5 hours to r&r a motor. I have done a ton of top ends and pulled a motor a few times, 5 hours is not enough time. Could it be done, possibly, but it's not fair for a mechanic working for a living.

 

[2XM3]

I agree, if a dealer was to r&r and rebuild in 5 hrs, the first thing i'd do after i picked it up was pull it apart and go through it myself...lol...no wonder there are so many failures. Lets see, about 2 hours to carefully pull it out, then maybe 3-4 to carefully disassemble and measure/check everything as to why it failed. First rule of any good engine shop..NO IMPACT wrenches... (could take 1-2 days if I need to mag/xray questionable parts) Then clean everything, measure all new parts, perform needed machine work, mock up assembly and check again, ah 6 hrs+ . Reclean all parts, final checks on everything,and assemble, 6-8 hrs. Install in sled after all electronics are checked, 1 day. 4-5 heat soak cycles, leakdown test/recheck timing,oil pump flow..1 day. Short rides/heat soak under load, recheck all mounts/fittings....Good to ride. So about a week.
And thats why a really good shop has a very very low failure rate on motors, when you are building a 50,000.00 + woo sprint car engine or a blown alky deal you learn to be careful.
Yeah its total overkill but when its my name on the shop door (20+years) I want ZERO failures. after all the engine must finish the race/ride to win and make everybody happy.

 

[X2Freeride]

check your oil usage, if you are not going through much oil it will happen again!!! I call bs on the a shortblock costing $4300. went on babbits priced out pistons, crank, and cases. no seals though and it is $1782. Add cylinders and head to it and its $2773. you will need seals and gaskets so throw in another $100 on top of it. they are full of crap and are a rip off if they are charging that much. I would say 5 hrs at the most to R&R the motor and rebuild it.

Thats labor included dealer installed in the sled.

 

[rmkboxer]

I agree with everything except the 5 hours to r&r a motor. I have done a ton of top ends and pulled a motor a few times, 5 hours is not enough time. Could it be done, possibly, but it's not fair for a mechanic working for a living.

maybe, It can't take that long to put a r&r a motor. I am a mchanic and and it shouldn't take much to get a motor out of there. if they are doing that many it should be under an hour to pull the motor easily. it takes a half hr at the most to pull the motor apart. shouldn't have to clean parts since they will be replaced. 2 hrs max to put the motor back together and 2 hrs to install. so we'll go with 6 hrs total

 

[rmkboxer]

Thats labor included dealer installed in the sled.

so for a short block they are charging you over $2000 in labor? we barely get that to put a deisel in a ford superduty. this is why I do my own work. the dealer is slow, they are mostly not knowledgable. (at least around here) there are some good dealers but few and far between. if it takes a dealer that long to do a motor run. I would rather have someone who can do it in 5 hrs then someone who takes 20hrs. I can pull a subaru motor, replace the head gaskets and have running in under 5hrs, I have done a bunch of them. so a guy who does it fast does not mean he's not doing it right. he know what hes doing and is what I would want

 

[rmkboxer]

oh ya and I forgot they will still probably not adjust the oil right. make sure you check your oil usage. the dragons that are not failing are using oil. Trust me I have one

 

[paulharris]

Mine did the same with 1140 miles on it. Seized got it going on one cylinder turned around and that was it.

wow, that engine has some serious damage

 

[OnlyPolaris]

my retail on the pro-rmk engine is $5500.00

 

[highmark289]

I want to know where I can get a new diesel motor for only $4,300.

there is a place in id. you can get reman. 7.3l psd and 5.9 cummins for $3500-4000. i dont have the flyer anymore of the place

 

[skippy]

I agree, if a dealer was to r&r and rebuild in 5 hrs, the first thing i'd do after i picked it up was pull it apart and go through it myself...lol...no wonder there are so many failures. Lets see, about 2 hours to carefully pull it out, then maybe 3-4 to carefully disassemble and measure/check everything as to why it failed. First rule of any good engine shop..NO IMPACT wrenches... (could take 1-2 days if I need to mag/xray questionable parts) Then clean everything, measure all new parts, perform needed machine work, mock up assembly and check again, ah 6 hrs+ . Reclean all parts, final checks on everything,and assemble, 6-8 hrs. Install in sled after all electronics are checked, 1 day. 4-5 heat soak cycles, leakdown test/recheck timing,oil pump flow..1 day. Short rides/heat soak under load, recheck all mounts/fittings....Good to ride. So about a week.
And thats why a really good shop has a very very low failure rate on motors, when you are building a 50,000.00 + woo sprint car engine or a blown alky deal you learn to be careful.
Yeah its total overkill but when its my name on the shop door (20+years) I want ZERO failures. after all the engine must finish the race/ride to win and make everybody happy.

Exactly how it should be done! Heat soaking is the key....