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Dodge 6.7 or 5.9 pros and cons

The front ends do last. I'll agree that the IFS of the GM doesn't hold up to extreme loads that a solid front axle can deal with. But you have to buy what works for you. I don't haul much other than sleds and soon to be slide in camper. I like the IFS on my GMC because it is a better daily driver than the harsh ride of a solid front. My truck rides better, has a ton of power, best tranny and great interior. For me it works better.


hummm so you did a cummins conversion? and your here to tell us why you chose the 6.7 over the 5.9......

why is it when someone asks what year dodge they should buy...the ford and cheby guy feel the need to chime in and say much they like their trucks?

but since your here tell us please what was the last model dodge you did own before your cheby? was it the 5.9 or 6.7?
 
hummm so you did a cummins conversion? and your here to tell us why you chose the 6.7 over the 5.9......

why is it when someone asks what year dodge they should buy...the ford and cheby guy feel the need to chime in and say much they like their trucks?

but since your here tell us please what was the last model dodge you did own before your cheby? was it the 5.9 or 6.7?

Sorry man, I didn't realize the Dodge fan club would jump my @ss. I was just talking HD trucks in general and I do like some of the Dodge Cummins trucks. I was giving my experience with the trucks and someone else elaborated on the front end of GM trucks.

If you have a problem with my posts, don't read them.
 
Sorry man, I didn't realize the Dodge fan club would jump my @ss. I was just talking HD trucks in general and I do like some of the Dodge Cummins trucks. I was giving my experience with the trucks and someone else elaborated on the front end of GM trucks.

If you have a problem with my posts, don't read them.


hd trucks? i thought you had a chevy? haha

Has nothing to do with the dodge fan club, but more so keeping threads on the topic. Nothing worse then reading a post and having to listen to some drivel that has nothing to do with the topic that op was asking about. And yea I was busting your balls.
 
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If you go with the 5.9 don't worry too much about the factory exhaust brake. The BD and Pacbrake work better than the factory jacobs brake. The Jacobs are prone to failure due to the dumb vacuum pump that is belt driven. If you do need to replace one go to a cummins store and buy it. Its cheaper than Dodge.

BD and Pac make the best brakes in the after market world. More holding power !

I would buy a used Dodge and save yourself a ton of money. You can buy nice 04-06 for like 15-20 US. Why pay 40-50 when all your gonna do is lose the money in a heartbeat. You could get a 04 for like 15 US and add 6-8 and have a bullet proof truck with 400 HP that will rip stumps out of the ground and get 20 MPG no problem !
 
If you go with the 5.9 don't worry too much about the factory exhaust brake. The BD and Pacbrake work better than the factory jacobs brake. The Jacobs are prone to failure due to the dumb vacuum pump that is belt driven. If you do need to replace one go to a cummins store and buy it. Its cheaper than Dodge.

BD and Pac make the best brakes in the after market world. More holding power !

I would buy a used Dodge and save yourself a ton of money. You can buy nice 04-06 for like 15-20 US. Why pay 40-50 when all your gonna do is lose the money in a heartbeat. You could get a 04 for like 15 US and add 6-8 and have a bullet proof truck with 400 HP that will rip stumps out of the ground and get 20 MPG no problem !

the new e brake isnt added on its the turbo itself, it has a sliding yoke that closes of the flow. it rated at like 230 of retarding hp. the pac is like 175 rhp.
drive the new trucks with one it will damn near throw ya against the windshield when the truck is unloaded. plus its all intergraded in the control of the ecm/transmission.
 
I have owned an '05 5.9 auto, have an "09 6.7 auto, and my son owns an '07 5.9 auto. The ball joints and front end geometry were improved for 2007. All three trucks towing identical trailers on the same trip need to be refueled at the same intervals. We've noticed the trip computers always average 2-3 mpg more on the 5.9's but calculated mpg is identical. The 6.7 has a superior transmission and is quieter in the cab. What specific deletes and performance mods are referenced above for better towing mileage? I get 11-12mpg @ 70mph with a 32' gooseneck.
 
I've got an 01' 5.9 cummings. I love the motor, never had an issue with it. However, I wish I could scrap the "quad cab" an get a mega cab. The quad cab is the same as having a single cab. You can't haul extra people comfortably, just an extra seat to put your gear on. I also hate the 3 speed automatic. I can't believe dodge would put such a turd behind the cummings. You will never unlock the potential of the 5.9 with a 3 speed. I'd love to see how the newer 6 speed performs.
 
i have the 07.5 6.7 have 60000k now its been flawless first 30000 with pollution crap 2nd 30000 h&s xrt exaust s&b intake & all deletes.befor deletes i got 13-14 city 16-17 highway now i get 16-17 city 21-23 highway now power is incredible power makes my old 03 5.9 seem weak i really like the tranny other than it shifts to soon but i just shift it manually if towing.exaust brake is the best i use it all the time if you dont have deletes you should always run it.if you are looking for more info go to the cummins forum you can read for days.:beer;
 
I have had 3 dodges, and a GMC. My first diesel was a 96 Dodge CTD, AT. 190K when I bought it, 220K when I sold it. Great truck. Trans never failed, me, but I knew they were not that great, so I was nice to it. Totally stock.

Second diesel was a '99 Dodge CTD/AT. That was a monster. It had a Edge box, and some tranny mods to it. Loved that truck. Then I got married, and we decided we wanted a bigger cab. The Megas were new then, so we went with a .....

Third diesel was an '04 GMC Duramax/Allison. What a turd. Absolutely gutless as all-get-out,-but at least is got horrid mileage! :mad: I had to put an Edge Juice/Attitude controller in it just to get it to try to keep up with my previous 99 Dodge/CTD. Also, they had a recall on the fuel injectors, but they wouldn't replace them until they cracked, and filled the crankcase with diesel. (and they said they would not cover the bearing damage from diesel in the oil, or the towing). It is possible we had a lemon, as there are lots of folks that love them. We HATED ours.

Finally got so fed up with it, we sold it and went back to Dodge. The Megas were available used by then, and I found an '06 Mega, CTD/AT. Great truck.

In my OPINION, the Dodge design is substantially more robust than the GM. The stock GM rode better than the stock dodge, sure, but the drivetrain is so much stronger on the Dodge- it HAS to be, since that Cummins is so much more powerful (torque) than the other designs. Ford may make great chassis, (not sure on this one) but they suck an making a diesel with any durability since the 7.3. (actually IH makes the Powerstroke for Ford) Anyway, The 6.0 can't keep head gaskets around longer than 100K, has a problem with the EGT design. The Duramax gets crappy mileage and has transmission output shaft housing issues (they are prone to cracking) and the Dodge has trackbar design problems. (PM me for my chosen solution) They all can benefit from better Torque Converters. All todays diesel engines can push past the limits of the the AT's the put in pickup trucks.

The inline-6 design gives inherently more torque. It's a math thing. Same displacement, fuel, etc, = more torque. In the larger diesels, Cummins is NOT the best, but that darn B-series just flat works.

Vinnee is right, the 'robustness' (like my new word?) of the Dodge drivetrain dwarfs the other two. It also still uses a solid front axle (strength) with coil springs and trailing arms (ride and strength).

I don't mind telling you I'm biased. I am. But, I too have worked as a professional automobile mechanic, and I have a bachelor's degree in vehicle design. I'll take the Dodge with the Cummin's engine. The reason they went to the 6.7 was not about power, it was about emissions. They can 'detune' the 6.7 to 'meet the emissions' and the couldn't do that with the 5.9.

And, I'm not trying to bite anyone's head off. I promise. I just want to share with you what my personal experience was, and what my education taught me. I think the GM's look the best, I like their interior ergonomics too. Ford makes pretty good frames, and their stock AT is pretty solid. The Dodges tend to pull to the right; I believe there is a offset ball joint kit you can use to solve that. (which by the way, I think is absolutely crap that you should have to put an offset ball joint in to keep a $45K truck from pulling to the right!) but, it's cheaper to fix than fixing the head gaskets on a Ford, or adding propane and twins to the Duramax.

OK, there you have it, my two cents.

good luck!

PE
 
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Guys I own an 07 megacab 5.9 and I gotta say that this transmission is awful! So if the guy who started this thread could get a great deal on an early 07(like I was lucky enough to get), what would be the minimum work he would have to do to toughen up the 48re and for it to handle a mild tune(say 100hp/150ftlbs)?
 
. The Dodges tend to pull to the right; I believe there is a offset ball joint kit you can use to solve that. (which by the way, I think is absolutely crap that you should have to put an offset ball joint in to keep a $45K truck from pulling to the right!) but, it's cheaper to fix than fixing the head gaskets on a Ford, or adding propane and twins to the Duramax.

OK, there you have it, my two cents.

good luck!

PE

Tell me more about this offset ball joint kit will ya? My 07' will flat wear your arms out keeping it straight down the road. After FOUR alignments have you!!
 
Ford may make great chassis, (not sure on this one) but they suck an making a diesel with any durability since the 7.3. (actually IH makes the Powerstroke for Ford) Anyway, The 6.0 can't keep head gaskets around longer than 100K, has a problem with the EGT design.
PE

They did fix the problem with the early 6.0. To bad they didnt stick with the 6.0. But because of the emissions they changed up again! They are a good engine but got a bad wrap from the get go! I have close to 70,000 miles on mine and it runs like a top. Word of caution: If you plane on running 30+psi of boost, Head Studs from ARP would be in order. Otherwise chipped, cold air intake does work good! JMHO
 
Also the 7.3 PS had there problems in the very beginning as well. But people do forget that.
 
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