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Dietary Supplements Advertised here on SnoWest

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I noticed GNC advertising dietary supplements here on SnoWest. Do you guys use any of them?

The only one I use with any regularity is the 17 oz EAS Myoplex 42 gram protein shake. They come in 4 packs and I get them at Walgreens. I like the vanilla best. Pricely little buggers. I used to use a Twinlab liquid protein supplement that tasted like chit but haven't use that product in a long time. Never tried the Creatine thing.

Do you guys use dietary supplements? If yes, which ones?

Oops.....meant to list this in Fouled Plug :(
 
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GNC's muti vitamin packs are good stuff.

GNC has alot of good products, just depends on what cost you can get their stuff for.

Protein factory is awesome for protein, can have them make a custom blend with about any supplement added right in to the protein powder before they ship it. And a good price as well.
 
I use protein powder now. I started using protein like 6 months ago and I've gained about 10 lbs of hopefully muscle, but I have definitely noticed the increases in the amount of weight I can lift in all 3 main lifts.
 
Too much protein will lead to premature kidney failure by way of amyloidosis (systemic protein deposition), over filtration requirements, etc. The average young healthy person (male) can only use 40-50g/ day which is easily obtained in your diet. Food for thought...American urine is the most expensive in the world. True story.
 
hmmm...if ya don't have better things to think about why don't ya saunter to the store and get some skittles and iced tea..
 
People actually spend money at GNC? Amazon has much better prices and selection.

I am a fan of Optimum Nutrition products. I take ON Gold whey, ON multivitamin, ON fishoil, and ON creatine.

Biggest thing to remember is that everyones diet is/should be different based on what their activity level and goals are. Dude sitting at a desk all day does not have the same dietary needs as the guy digging ditches all day. People into strength training / working out will also have different dietary needs.

treemagnet03 said:
Too much protein will lead to premature kidney failure by way of amyloidosis (systemic protein deposition), over filtration requirements, etc. The average young healthy person (male) can only use 40-50g/ day which is easily obtained in your diet. Food for thought...American urine is the most expensive in the world. True story.
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This is not true in people with healthy kidneys, a simple google search is FILLED with studies showing that high protein diets have no ill effects on people with healthy kidneys. It is true though that people with kidney disease should have a protein restricted diet, but protein does not cause kidney disease.

40-50 grams a day for a healthy male? Please show where that is all the human body utilize? Even the recommended amount for an adult male 56 grams, and that is just a WAG number for adult males between 19-70 years old. For anyone who is active and especially into strength training / working out, your body easily utilizes more than 50 grams.

Do totally agree though that for anyone who isnt in need of supplementation is literally flushing their money down the toilet.
 
ak ryda said:
People actually spend money at GNC? Amazon has much better prices and selection.

I am a fan of Optimum Nutrition products. I take ON Gold whey, ON multivitamin, ON fishoil, and ON creatine.

Biggest thing to remember is that everyones diet is/should be different based on what their activity level and goals are. Dude sitting at a desk all day does not have the same dietary needs as the guy digging ditches all day. People into strength training / working out will also have different dietary needs.



This is not true in people with healthy kidneys, a simple google search is FILLED with studies showing that high protein diets have no ill effects on people with healthy kidneys. It is true though that people with kidney disease should have a protein restricted diet, but protein does not cause kidney disease.

40-50 grams a day for a healthy male? Please show where that is all the human body utilize? Even the recommended amount for an adult male 56 grams, and that is just a WAG number for adult males between 19-70 years old. For anyone who is active and especially into strength training / working out, your body easily utilizes more than 50 grams.

Do totally agree though that for anyone who isnt in need of supplementation is literally flushing their money down the toilet.
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Sure, dietary needs change somewhat. But if you were to look at the average attempt at a healthy meal it contains too much anyway. Sure, healthy kidneys can handle the extra load, but over the years that changes. And once you go into failure you are screwed. Ever watched someone who relies on dialysis to stay alive? Brutal, praying for someone to die or someone to gift a kidney so they only have to be on chronic immunosuppressants and in danger of illness and organ rejection. What I am saying is we really don't need PROTEIN in the full form anyway. There are essential amino acids that we need for use in our biochemical pathways, which serve as building blocks to the protein we make ourselves. The rest of it we can get by without as we can make them in our own bodies. Sure Dr. Google can tell you whatever you want to hear, but basic common physiology and solid peer-reviewed journal articles are more what I prefer to read on such matters. How much energy do you really think it takes to do a task? Look it up sometime. It is shockingly low. If I had the time I would go into more detail, but quite honestly unless you are at least a semi-pro athlete or have a chronic deficiency due to a disease there is absolutely no need to be supplementing your diet with protein (assuming you eat in a healthy balanced fashion).

I recommend Jim Gaffigan's view on vitamins (scroll to skit 59):
https://myspace.com/jimgaffiganmusic/music/songs
 
treemagnet03 said:
Sure, dietary needs change somewhat. But if you were to look at the average attempt at a healthy meal it contains too much anyway. Sure, healthy kidneys can handle the extra load, but over the years that changes. And once you go into failure you are screwed. Ever watched someone who relies on dialysis to stay alive? Brutal, praying for someone to die or someone to gift a kidney so they only have to be on chronic immunosuppressants and in danger of illness and organ rejection. What I am saying is we really don't need PROTEIN in the full form anyway. There are essential amino acids that we need for use in our biochemical pathways, which serve as building blocks to the protein we make ourselves. The rest of it we can get by without as we can make them in our own bodies. Sure Dr. Google can tell you whatever you want to hear, but basic common physiology and solid peer-reviewed journal articles are more what I prefer to read on such matters. How much energy do you really think it takes to do a task? Look it up sometime. It is shockingly low. If I had the time I would go into more detail, but quite honestly unless you are at least a semi-pro athlete or have a chronic deficiency due to a disease there is absolutely no need to be supplementing your diet with protein (assuming you eat in a healthy balanced fashion).

I recommend Jim Gaffigan's view on vitamins (scroll to skit 59):
https://myspace.com/jimgaffiganmusic/music/songs
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Dr. Google is full of peer reviewed journal articles that support additional protein has no ill effects on long term kidney disease, but do agree that it is easy to pick articles that support whatever opinion you have. Yes, my grandfather was on dialysis before he passed, was horrible to watch and was extremely hard on my grandmother as well.

You wouldn't happen to be vegetarian would you? I am curious as to your views on a low protein diet. It is just so different than 99% percent of what I have read and seen. Granted, my research and reading is geared towards powerlifting, athletics, strength training, crossfit, and the like. Getting my diet in check (balanced / clean diet with about 1.5g per pound of lean mass) has made a huge improvement in my strength, conditioning, and body composition.

You are 100% correct on the energy / calories required for tasks. They should put a new line on "Nutritional Facts" label on food that shows how many miles you have to jog per serving.
 
How many whoppers with cheese will get me to my daily allowance of 60 grams of protein per day?
 
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