This is a qoute from another thread
" whip that thing
For sure my Yamaha doesn't have the power I would prefer. 75 wide fat horses would be better.
Better than more 4 stroke hp is two stroke power delivery. The four stroke power delivery in any amount is self defeating in any soft traction condition..........read that as snow, is way not good. Right now that just happpens to be all most of us have. 100 hp four stroke bike still sucks as far as power delivery in snow.
Why haven't 4 stroke sleds become kings of the back county,..... no amount of hp or track can fix slogging digging thumping submarine 4 stroke power delivery. We are all fighting the same issue with our thumper bikes.
We need two stroke power with good transmissions . Right now our choice is torqueless motors tooo small or motors toooo old. Sled engines don't have transmissions and cvt transmissions are worse than 4 stroke power..........Hawk proved that.
The engines are out there. The transmissions are on e bay...........so whose going to step to the plate and build a real sno bike engine."
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MY THOUGHTS
I have been hearing lots of discussions on the mountain about gearbox vs. Cvt. Never being a snowmobiler and entering this sport with a snowbike (bored, cammed and piped 570 ktm with 2moto kit)
I always felt like every time i had to shift gears while climbing it was game over. Now i know a 2moto is not a good example but since that time i have ridden most flavors of snowbike from 250 2 stroke to turbo 4 strokes and i still feel the same.
My 550 fan hawk, 600 ho and 800 ho clutches have been tuned excellent (which is very different than clutching on a sled) and seem far superior to a gearbox.
Am i missing something??????
I would really like to hear some opinions on this subject because i think it is a huge factor in the progression of the sport.
Building a bored and stroked cr500 is not feesible and a turbo 4 stroke just seems like a time bomb. A big single with a secondary gearbox is doable but weight may be a factor.
Big single 2stroke with a cvt??????
Not looking for an argument, just well thought out opinions.
What direction do people want to see this go?
" whip that thing
For sure my Yamaha doesn't have the power I would prefer. 75 wide fat horses would be better.
Better than more 4 stroke hp is two stroke power delivery. The four stroke power delivery in any amount is self defeating in any soft traction condition..........read that as snow, is way not good. Right now that just happpens to be all most of us have. 100 hp four stroke bike still sucks as far as power delivery in snow.
Why haven't 4 stroke sleds become kings of the back county,..... no amount of hp or track can fix slogging digging thumping submarine 4 stroke power delivery. We are all fighting the same issue with our thumper bikes.
We need two stroke power with good transmissions . Right now our choice is torqueless motors tooo small or motors toooo old. Sled engines don't have transmissions and cvt transmissions are worse than 4 stroke power..........Hawk proved that.
The engines are out there. The transmissions are on e bay...........so whose going to step to the plate and build a real sno bike engine."
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MY THOUGHTS
I have been hearing lots of discussions on the mountain about gearbox vs. Cvt. Never being a snowmobiler and entering this sport with a snowbike (bored, cammed and piped 570 ktm with 2moto kit)
I always felt like every time i had to shift gears while climbing it was game over. Now i know a 2moto is not a good example but since that time i have ridden most flavors of snowbike from 250 2 stroke to turbo 4 strokes and i still feel the same.
My 550 fan hawk, 600 ho and 800 ho clutches have been tuned excellent (which is very different than clutching on a sled) and seem far superior to a gearbox.
Am i missing something??????
I would really like to hear some opinions on this subject because i think it is a huge factor in the progression of the sport.
Building a bored and stroked cr500 is not feesible and a turbo 4 stroke just seems like a time bomb. A big single with a secondary gearbox is doable but weight may be a factor.
Big single 2stroke with a cvt??????
Not looking for an argument, just well thought out opinions.
What direction do people want to see this go?
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