Constant throttle blipping while riding?

[arcticridr]

Yup it takes special skills to make trails like these , these are done with a tiller not a drag , pulling a drag with a pb400 is like taking a shower with a rain coat on !! Rob it is but it also a mind F..k for 10-12 hours specially in the deep hanging off the edge of a mountain !!! And you are guaranteed to not get the szhat knocked outta you heading to the Backcountry or back to the truck

 

[Reeb]

I think fawking with the flipper started when we had the first wave of commercialized turbos. Carb and early efi sleds would load up all the time and to put a name on it(Burandt) made "blipping" normal. Having to keep rpm's up and turbo's spooled he "blipped" the throttle to the point where we are blipping everything for no good reason.

I can cut a sidehill and poke thru trees at 6500-7000rpm easier and in more control than a guy "blipping" to 8300rpm every 2 seconds. It sounds like I'm running on one cylinder, and I don't get rowdy, so if optics/hearing is all you're after, fill your boots.

As far as clutching goes...."blipping" is killing your secondary rollers. Anyone saying if spreads the load over the primary weights is drinking the kool-aid. It's utter nonsense. I had to login in and reply just for that moronic claim. So dumb.

Learn proper throttle control and you'll be stuck less, make less mistakes, and be more in control of your sled more often.

Does my old carbed mod need me to blip the throttle going down the trail? you bet. But actual riding.......totally unnecessary.

 

[arcticridr]

Amen!

 

[simnil]

Some years ago some "Big Youtube name", don't remember which one but it might have been Burandt in one of the "Schooled" videos, said that if your track speed and land speed is the same you will have a much harder time keeping in control in a sidehill. Track speed should either be higher or lower than "GPS-speed" and this is why the good tree riders is always adjusting throttle and brake input. (I do it too without claiming any particular expertise but agrees with above statement based on my own experience)

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Some years ago some "Big Youtube name", don't remember which one but it might have been Burandt in one of the "Schooled" videos, said that if your track speed and land speed is the same you will have a much harder time keeping in control in a sidehill. Track speed should either be higher or lower than "GPS-speed" and this is why the good tree riders is always adjusting throttle and brake input. (I do it too without claiming any particular expertise but agrees with above statement based on my own experience)

Yep.

Steady throttle works great in the mellow open spaces.

Spinning the track to set into the hill and abrupt throttle to make the hopover is required for steeper terrain / more control.

Everyone's perception of steep is based on experience so very susceptible to affirmation bias.

 

[IDspud]

It’s amazing to me the people that believe riding skills didn’t exist prior to social media.
Ignorance is bliss, eh.

 

[Reeb]

Some years ago some "Big Youtube name", don't remember which one but it might have been Burandt in one of the "Schooled" videos, said that if your track speed and land speed is the same you will have a much harder time keeping in control in a sidehill. Track speed should either be higher or lower than "GPS-speed" and this is why the good tree riders is always adjusting throttle and brake input. (I do it too without claiming any particular expertise but agrees with above statement based on my own experience)

What people fail to recognize is that they take what they want from statements and put the blinders on.
In a normal face to face conversation the fact that setting the track in the snow with the throttle is needed even with my “steady as she goes” theory. And vice versa. People tend to polarize one theory or the other without realizing that there is “some” give and take.

It’s not about ability or someone’s perception of what’s steep and tree’d. You can provide examples of both types of riding in a ditch on the side of a trail or hundreds of feet up a hill in a tight swath of trees.

Burandt himself admits that he still blips the throttle because it makes riding harder than being smooth and calculated. It’s in a Schooled video. He “blips” because it adds an extra element of difficulty.
I’m humble enough to know I’m not Burandt, too many people think they are and that’s the problem in itself.

I’ll summarize it this way…..dirtbike guys, back in the 2-stroke days you have to constantly clean out the carb on the line and always had to vary throttle to get temps up and heat in the pipe. Now they all ride 4-strokes and efi but they continue to “warm up” their bikes the same way. Even tho we all know steady throttle is the only proper way to get an engine up to temps. Habit and pack mentality take over. It’s human nature, especially for those that lack enough experience to think on their own.

 

[Reeb]

Yep.

Steady throttle works great in the mellow open spaces.

Spinning the track to set into the hill and abrupt throttle to make the hopover is required for steeper terrain / more control.

Everyone's perception of steep is based on experience so very susceptible to affirmation bias.

Case in point, nobody is denying having to give the sled a shot of throttle when doing a maneuver like a hop over or bowtie. I don’t set my throttle on cruise control at 7000rpm and leave it there for the day. If we had this conversation face to face, we would both agree with each other to a degree.

“Blipping” isn’t the end all be all, and neither is a steady hand. The problem I have is the blipping is used during every aspect of riding period. Leaving the parking lot? Blip blip blip. Heading up the trail? Heading into the trees? Making a climb even….everyone needs to be heard and seen.

For me, personally, cutting a sidehill and having to adjust with throttle/brake as often as most people do is ridiculous. The only reason you’re doing that is because you’re trying to level out the sled and fighting the constant washout of increasing trackspeed suddenly. Then you hit the brake to level off etc etc. Or you can have a steady thumb and proper positioning and not have to constantly be adjusting….honestly, which makes more sense?
Like driving a car hard into a corner, are you smooth and fast or are you out of control sawing on the wheel while double clutching your way thru the corner? If you are that experienced that you need to add that level of difficulty, then bravo.

To each their own I guess….

 

[Pickin’ Boogers]

To each their own I guess….

^^^ This

 

[boondocker97]

I think fawking with the flipper started when we had the first wave of commercialized turbos. Carb and early efi sleds would load up all the time and to put a name on it(Burandt) made "blipping" normal. Having to keep rpm's up and turbo's spooled he "blipped" the throttle to the point where we are blipping everything for no good reason.

I can cut a sidehill and poke thru trees at 6500-7000rpm easier and in more control than a guy "blipping" to 8300rpm every 2 seconds. It sounds like I'm running on one cylinder, and I don't get rowdy, so if optics/hearing is all you're after, fill your boots.

As far as clutching goes...."blipping" is killing your secondary rollers. Anyone saying if spreads the load over the primary weights is drinking the kool-aid. It's utter nonsense. I had to login in and reply just for that moronic claim. So dumb.

Learn proper throttle control and you'll be stuck less, make less mistakes, and be more in control of your sled more often.

Does my old carbed mod need me to blip the throttle going down the trail? you bet. But actual riding.......totally unnecessary.

Not just secondary rollers. It's going to be harder on every bushing of every moving component in both clutches when it's constantly shifting. And the primary clutch springs aren't going to last as long with the extra cycles.

 

[turboless terry]

If you drive your truck it will wear out also.
Burandt didn’t make it normal. Did it years ago to cool sleds. Did it, along with choke, to get a sled to the mountain without burning down or re jetting. Also not burning down turbo sleds in mid range. Some is habit. A bunch is when you buy a sled the throttle is adjustable from 0 to 100%. It's up to the consumer on how to use it. When people don't have enough to do they start worrying what everyone else is doing. If people make a mogul, who cares. That is what grooming is for.

 

[boondocker97]

I don't care how other people ride their sleds either... as long as it doesn't lead to having to tow them out due to stupidity lol.

I just replaced a lightened, balanced primary clutch that the rollers and weight bushings were worn and the sheaves were starting to crack. Aside from the extra power, I'm pretty sure the lightening didn't help the life, but it's on my supercharged sled and there's a lot of on/off throttle with that thing. Not going to ride it any differently and I just sent the new one to Patrick to lighten again because I like the performance.

I like me some moguls, but momma always said I was "special." They probably wear my sled out faster than anything I do with my right thumb!

 

[skank]

Here’s my go at it…
Blipping in deep technical terrain helps keep the sled unsettled, engaged, responsive, and easier to make a quick maneuver. Watch the monster truck Grave Digger do a freestyle run. He blips the entire run for very similar reasons.