Colorado Dealership.....

[Dbook]

I agree with what has been said about Felker. He has done a lot for the sport and has some amazing sleds. But it is a good 'ol boys shop and their service does not match their performance. He couldn't even sponsor a race that he showed up to with 13 sleds. Even though Xtreme was not racing at that event, they were able to help the local club and sponsor.

Funny, last time I checked "Supporting" a race involves showing up and racing. I suppose he could have just sent in $500.00 bucks and got his logo on the banner and not bothered with shutting his shop down for a day! I suppose that all the other racers that showed up to race would have come regardless!! I know a lot of the other racers came to knock billy bob and his farm sled off in the drags!! I mean surely nobody would travel to race a guy who's sleds are proven winners?

Odd how a member of the hosting club would bash a guy for bringing riders and sleds to their race!

 

[Dbook]

On topic I have bought sleds From Kyle @ RPM in Rifle and have always had great service with him. My dad bought a XP from him last year and it has been a solid sled. Kyle is a GREAT guy and goes out of his way to help.

When I moved to Denver I found a dealer that was closer to me out of convenience.

That dealer is Felker. I have never bought a sled from Lynn my last few sleds havent come from dealers. but, Lynn has treated me like family. I need a dealer that can help me get the most out of my sled for the way I ride it. Not some boxed up set up that they come up with that "works" for everyone. That ski doo dealer is Felkers.

 

[milehighassassin]

I think the point that was trying to be made is that it costs a lot of time and money to organize an event. For a Non-Profit club the only way to get these events going is from sponsorship money. These dealers make a lot of money off of the sledding industry. Xtreme had prior commitments, but was more than happy to help out a club. Sure Felkers brought their racers and competed. They paid entree fees like everyone else, but 100% of the entree fees are rewarded back to the winners of the respectful division. Sponsorship money is what helps you put the event on and pay for the gear required to run the race, groomers are not cheap, diesel fuel is not cheap, fencing, insurance, etc it all adds up. I personally think if you can show up at an event with that many riders, there should be no reason why you can't give back to the industry that you rely so heavily upon. There were many guys that were not from the state that were more than happy to sponsor the event.

 

[trinitypowder]

I would venture to guess that Xtreme-with all sled bands covered- does a lot more business than Lynn. Probably 4-5 times more. So good on them if they can send some $$ to an event. How many other DOO dealers sent sponsorship money?????

 

[MtnDoo]

<<...for the way I ride it. >>

LOL. Dbook - you're going to need more than the liar's bench for that.

 

[Dbook]

I think the point that was trying to be made is that it costs a lot of time and money to organize an event. For a Non-Profit club the only way to get these events going is from sponsorship money. These dealers make a lot of money off of the sledding industry. Xtreme had prior commitments, but was more than happy to help out a club. Sure Felkers brought their racers and competed. They paid entree fees like everyone else, but 100% of the entree fees are rewarded back to the winners of the respectful division. Sponsorship money is what helps you put the event on and pay for the gear required to run the race, groomers are not cheap, diesel fuel is not cheap, fencing, insurance, etc it all adds up. I personally think if you can show up at an event with that many riders, there should be no reason why you can't give back to the industry that you rely so heavily upon. There were many guys that were not from the state that were more than happy to sponsor the event.

You sir are absolutely right!!! Felker and every other dealership should take the hundreds of thousands of dollars they make each year off the sledding industry and help every joe that calls them on the phone and just give them money!!! I know this will take some work but they will have to give up that 80 ft yacht he was going to buy off of this years sled profits.

I mean sure you had to have given a better speach then what he has heard from every other race promoter/racer/freestyle rider/sledneck wannabe that calls him weekly asking for money. It couldnt have helped that when you called Donovan at Xtreme he actually knew who he was talking to? I cannot believe Felkers was the only dealer in the state that did not support such a well know event!

Funny thing is Felker had other things he wanted to do that weekend too! But, Thanks to the efforts of myself and my buddies we talked him into coming and you are right diesel fuel is expensive as we all drove over from the front range.

It's rather sad that the hosting club has to openly bash a dealer who came over to help out some customer's. Lynn had even said how good of an event it was and wouldnt mind helping them out next year. After seeing two club members bashing him on the internet I am not so sure I would help out if it was me! but that is just me.

You can openly talk about what it takes to put on a race and the support that is needed and that is fine we understand what it takes to promote an event as most of us have done it before.

But what is an event without riders?

You act like Lynn brought all these guys out and put them up for a night and had them race for him!! LMAO !!

 

[kodpkd]

The EKXP is under going some
Top Secret repairs at "The Skunk Works". If anybody is an Aviation fan, they'll get the "skunk works" thingy! Wild Wild Wes is gonna take my sled down to the Snow show to show off his graphic work along with Calvin Felkers sled too. They will be at Felkers booth.

I am an aviator,, I get the Skunk Works, thing.... A good name.

 

[trinitypowder]

Preach on DB!!!!!

 

[milehighassassin]

You sir are absolutely right!!! Felker and every other dealership should take the hundreds of thousands of dollars they make each year off the sledding industry and help every joe that calls them on the phone and just give them money!!! I know this will take some work but they will have to give up that 80 ft yacht he was going to buy off of this years sled profits.

I mean sure you had to have given a better speach then what he has heard from every other race promoter/racer/freestyle rider/sledneck wannabe that calls him weekly asking for money. It couldnt have helped that when you called Donovan at Xtreme he actually knew who he was talking to? I cannot believe Felkers was the only dealer in the state that did not support such a well know event!

Funny thing is Felker had other things he wanted to do that weekend too! But, Thanks to the efforts of myself and my buddies we talked him into coming and you are right diesel fuel is expensive as we all drove over from the front range.

It's rather sad that the hosting club has to openly bash a dealer who came over to help out some customer's. Lynn had even said how good of an event it was and wouldnt mind helping them out next year. After seeing two club members bashing him on the internet I am not so sure I would help out if it was me! but that is just me.

You can openly talk about what it takes to put on a race and the support that is needed and that is fine we understand what it takes to promote an event as most of us have done it before.

But what is an event without riders?

You act like Lynn brought all these guys out and put them up for a night and had them race for him!! LMAO !!

This thread is going in the wrong direction. I simply posted my experience with his shop. I have been in there more than once and I honestly felt like I was a burden on his crew. We took 1 sled there to get work done and it ran like complete crap. I know what Lynn has done for the sport and I know he has a great reputation for his tuning (which is why the sled was taken there), but with that said, these were my experiences. I have nothing to do with the said club or race other than I am a paying member just like 50 or so other people. I shared my experience with Felkers. Yes I do think it was ****ty that he was able to go to the event but turn down a sponsorship. I am sure he gets many people asking for support, but guess what? If you are going to be involved in this industry that is going to happen. He does make a living from the industry, did I say he lived on a yacht? Absolutely not.

This was the first race I have ever been involved with in any way. Maybe I set my expectation too high for Felkers. I had heard such great things.
I enjoyed seeing you (Donnie), Tim among others all compete, and yes it is the racers that make it fun.

With that said I think the point that was trying to be made is that I am willing to support those that support the sport. I would much rather give my money to a shop/business/company that is willing to give some back. There were snowest sponsors that stepped up and were more than happy to give support to these same races, they too have never heard of us, or never had anything to do with it. I personally have gone out of my way to try to buy from them, and direct people I know looking for products towards them, what comes around goes around. You scratch my back I'll scratch yours. Is that wrong? Xtreme supported this race, Xtreme has treated ME good every time I have been in there. I unfortunately cannot say that about Felkers, I wish I could.

 

[MtnDoo]

Milehighassassign -

Dude, with all due respect, you're getting a little worked up over a what amounts to a rounding error in history.

Both Felkers, Xtreme and some other shops have been very involved in snowmobile racing of all flavors for many, many years in and around Colorado - to the tune of hundreds of events if not more. Not every shop sponsors every race - and yes, shops do have customers and sponsored racers attend a random schedule of races. It seems with one event under your belt you've etched out quite a high expectation of event sponsorship.

If you had a bad experience w/ Felker and his staff- at this point it's certainly unfortunate and duely noted. Xtreme is a reputable dealer with lots of clients - they have lots of go fast stuff and their program is solid.

No one is trashing your dealer here - plenty of folks have encountered hiccups in Xtreme's service departments - but they address issues, as do most good shops. What works for you may not be the right thing for someone else.

I think it would be tough to match the investment in time, equipment and research into Skidoo that Lynn has put in with Tim/Donnie/Chad over the last few years. The results speak for themselves and ultimately help other Felker customers. I've seen Xtreme do similar work on Polaris in the past with results to boot.

I hope your second race goes better.

MtnDoo.

 

[trinitypowder]

Everybody relax................ride what you want and support who you want. I could give a crud about who sponsors what event; I brought my sled to ride in the hills and thats what i'm gonna doooooo Thanks to Lynn, my time in the hills is very enjoyable. If Donovan makes "you" happy at the race track, great. If Lynn doesn't, that's fine too. I like small "homey" feeling dealers that know my name. I'm not into the "one size fits all" dealer that sells you stuff you don't need to help pay for the cleaning lady to come in 3 times a week to spiffy things up. Now then, where is the snow?????

 

[live2ride]

WOW, thanks for the info guys, all I needed was opinions, I was not looking for who sponsored what. Someone that has been in business for 20 years or so, I am sure has supported the sport in one way or the other, maybe it was a bad year could not do as much as they wanted. I did get my sled from Felkers, not that I knew either one, but they had the sled available according to the hubby as he did not snow check it. SO with that said, I wonder if the ones that had bad experiences if they bought the sled from the dealerships they were expecting top notch service from?? Don't get me wrong, I think it is wrong, but all dealers I know for the majority, if you did not buy from them, they really don't put you on the top of the to do list. To many people shop around for the "BEST" deal then no set up is done, then try to take it to another dealer and be all upset it did not run AWESOME stock outta the box. I am not trying to start anything with this thread, but it happens all the time in all dealerships. Returning customers will always get put to the top of the to do list.......at least from my experience.

 

[Rocky]

You couldn't have said it better! I agree.

You get what you pay for in life and relationships are everything!

Imagine that!

 

[Farmer]

You couldn't have said it better! I agree.

You get what you pay for in life and relationships are everything!

Imagine that!

X2 on that thought.

Different customers want different things from their dealers. Sometimes one person might have better luck with a dealer than someone else. Just the way it goes. I've seen Extreme setup sleds that ran good and other's that were best at average. There seems to be way more people that are happy with them than are not. We live 30 miles from Rifle Performance Motor sports (RPM) and even though the owner is nice guy, I wouldn't buy a spark plug from them much less a sled. Their idea of performance and mine is way difference. I've seen too much poor work come out of that shop and too many B.S. stories behind it. In my personel opinon they are poor dealer. On the flip side of that other people have had excellent luck with them, so it goes to show "to each their own".

My first choice for ski-doo is actaully Weekender Sports in Hotchkiss Colorado. They do almost nothing as far performance, nor claim too, but they always do a first class job on getting me the parts I need and do excellent job on working on sleds and ATV's. Very good guys.

I am very happy with Felker so far. They have been exactly as I expected. The service has been very good and if the sled runs half as good as other XP's I've seen them set up we will be very happy.

Once again to each their own.

 

[Stroker Customs]

Do we need to set up a cage match!!

 

[trinitypowder]

Umm umm.............here goes; in the blue corner standing 6' 3" tall and weighing in at a "svelte" 220 lbs. Trained and backed by the Felker Groupies. Fighting out of Powder County Colorado.....................Trinityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyypowderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr(insert crowd noise here). And in the red corner, Mile high assassin- send info please.......

 

[Love-n-Life]

Kristen,

Glad to hear you made your way to Lynns Shop. Lynn is a lot Like Terry at Action is and stands behind those that are his customers. when I moved from gillette, I did the same search for dealers locally and soon found that Lynn was a die hard and commited to making sleds work the best. It took a little time to get to know Felkers, But can say they are a great group and We have always had a great time building sleds over the years.

For those following this discussion, There are two or three post every year that have the exact same throw down on dealers, Same statments, tyically by the same people. Some true some not. Glad to see that Not much has changed.....