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Checking out a company before you buy

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I just wanted to know if I'm the only one that would ask a company a few questions about their product before spending what some mite say is a large sum of money.

1) Ok now what would you do when you get a reply back and your questions weren't answered ?

But hey I did get some other kinda info.

2) All right now how about when you ask the company to list any/all accessories that I could purchase with their product?

I just get a reply with the basics.

Just so you all Know not that that I'm unhappy that my questions were not answered the way I wanted them they were not answered at ALL.

One could say that the basics is an answer.

I just don't think I should have to ask a company a few simple questions more than once. Hey I'm not dealing with my children here!

So company if you want my money review my e-mail to you and get back to me.

Well I feel much better now.
 
instead of trying to drag this into the public and make it obvious your unhappy, why don't you just ask them yourself to answer your questions? most snowmobile companies are really busy this time a year and probably just missed your question
 
I am a sales rep for a very high performing piece of equipment. when people email questions about features and what not I will usually send the basics and ask for a phone number if I do not know them. alot of time the questions are very difficult to answer by email with out writing a 10 page email and then they will get confused. its alot better to talk to them on the phone. My advice to you would be to call them and discuss what you want to do, what application you are going to be using the product in, and what questions you have. if they fail to help you out then, dont do business with them
 
Thanks for your input polaris dude really. That's why I started this thread. I'm hoping that you all noticed that I am not in any way slamming anyones name here. So like I said in my post I don't think I should have to ask a simple question twice.
Ok now for the rest of you that may think I have a screw loose. Here is a sample question.

Hello company would you be willing to do this ___________ for me?
Companies answer: Some people have done this and done that. ( the done this and done that is so I don't give up companies names )
Now hey my 13 yr old daughter thinks the proper answer should have been sorry we can't do that or yes we can .
OK now let's talk about being busy where I live it gets well below zero in the winter time heating systems go bonkers , but yet plumbing and heating dudes are at your service. Why not the said companies with questions answered ? I mean hey it's a simple yes I will or no I won't , not a 10 page letter.
Hey guys wouldn't you steer away from a company that didn't answer your questions?
Of coarse you would ! But in this case of there only being 1 company now what would you do?
Hey winter brew just e-mail.
I started this thread for input so please keep it coming.
WOW that felt good!
Thanks guys
 
I get this almost all the time on a regular basis. Not limited to the snowmobile industries, but to all the other industries where I have a hand in from play to work to business owner. Now, I have a reason for emailing those companies.

1) I can send several emails in one shot. Cant do that with a phone.

2) I can save my emails that gets replied back for follow up or future references, etc. Cant do that with a phone convo.

3)Emails are simplier because, generally, I cannot call during the company's normal business hours. (work and business owner related excluded)

4)Most importantly, I am a deaf man, so think about whats easier for me and more crystal clear. (I have gotten hung up on trying to call in the past because some businesses suck at email and also don't realize a telemarketer and a relay operator are 2 different things)

I hate it when companies reply with a please call us with more info. Half the time I do, and end up getting hung up on. How funny is that? Also, I hate replies that are so far off my questions that they do not answer a simple specific question about a part/model/brand of a specific part/model/brand. I am a business owner and would gladly email someone a 10 page answer/reply if that is what it took to get their business. I can make a simple answer that long just to be clear. Its all about knowing how to describe/explain whatever a question or an answer pertains. . But hey, that's just me--it works. As it stands in today's world, about 25% of the companies I email to are very very excellent at keeping up while another 25% needs to work on being more specific. The next to last 25% are a complete joke--all they care about is what their product can do against a competitor's products that they neglected to see that I did not ask for their take on their competitors. The last 25%..whew, why put an email us link if your not gonna ever reply anyway.


I guarantee you, if those last 75% of the companies improved their email follow ups, they are going to see a significiant improvement to their sales. Im not talking about suiting to my requests but to all the other average Joe's out there that uses emails to get in touch with those companies because they are generally not able to call during the company's business hours.
 
Its all about customer service.. I do alot of business overseas, where I can not speak to the customer.. Emails are a very important part of communication,without them I would be sunk..
 
This a very good topic..

I can tell you from experience with my business, that it is NOT always as "cut and dry" as some would describe..

I will try and explain in more detail..

1) Sometimes the question asked is VERY difficult to answer CORRECTLY via written response. So, Sometimes the "asker" may get a short answer or the "Please call" answer, NOT because I did not want to answer the question but because the question is VERY difficult to answer via email. For example, When people ask for the differences between certain products, this question is not easily answered via typing since there can be dozens of "differences" between EACH product asked about and you really do not want to leave any one out or short the guy of the FULL answer.
Again, the full answer can be MUCH easier answered with much MORE DETAIL via the spoken word.. So, when the question requires a very detailed answer, typing is usually not the best form for giving all the details..

2) Some's typing skills are much lower than others. So, what may be some easy typing for some may be a long drawn out typing mess for others (Like me, who can not type very well)

3) This a huge one, at least for my company.. During the Winter season, the phone is ringing constantly, I mean it will ring non-stop.. So, you get into the shop on ANYDAY, especially Monday after a long weekend of riding has taken place, and you can have 100+ emails in your inbox AND more coming in every minute, 50+ messages on the voice mail and the phone is ringing from the minute you walk in the shop's door. Then you also have that little thing called "Work" to do ... So, what do you give the highest priority? Answer.. ALL OF IT...

So, what happens is, you learn to multi-task. Meaning.. You answer the phone and answer the emails at the same time.. NO, this is not ideal.. but you really have no choice.
You do the best you can to give service to both the phone caller and the emailer..
One thing I will never do is click over to the other incoming call when speaking with another.. I have call waiting, but never use it. It is a free service with my plan and it alerts me that there has been another call while I have been on the phone. That is its sole purpose with me. I hate it when I am on thephone with a business and they say "hold on a minute" and click over.. So, I choose never to do this to anybody.

I also never cut anybody short on the phone. I have been on the phone for over 2 hours with customers MANY TIMES.. And this does not upset me at at, I enjoy speaking will all fellow sledders, all this does is make it so I get home later that night..No big deal...:D:beer;

FearlessCatMan.. Nice to see you back on the forums.. I remember having a relay conversation with your operator many years ago.. Your situation is truley unique..no doubt..I actully remember asking why we had an relay. Again, nice to see you back on the forums.

So, some businesses are more busy than others and at some point, there can surely be a threshold point that gets crossed.. All one can do is do their best to try and provide the best service they can at that given time.. Sometimes it is enough and sometimes, the customer "feels" it was lacking.. this is unfortunate because I do not know of ANY business that would intentially short their customer or potential customer.
I mean, think about that, why would any business try and purposely turn off a customer?? But, having said all that, some people feel that that is exactly what they got. This is truly unfortunate..

Remember, these businesses are that busy for a REASON That reason being, they have a line of products that is very desireable.

If anybody in any business was ever short with any caller.. ESPECIALLY when they were speaking with the business owner (like in my biz's case) , you can be assured that it was never intentional..because no business owner would ever try and sway anybody away... Afterall.. it is their business..
Now, if you are speaking with an operator/ phone answer employee.. then I can see where that individual may or may not really care if the customer is satisfied or not.. afterall. they have nothing vested in the company.. just there collecting a paycheck.. Of course, this is a HUGE generalization.. Most people in that position love their job and are there because they do care..

So, IMO, this is a touchy subject that can get misrepresentated because every day has a different set of circumstances that surround it.. I remember once or twice when I would be on the phone and one of my CNC's would crash or have a serious issue.. Of course, at this point, you need to politely get off the phone to tend to the situation at hand with the machines.. Some callers will take offense to this and others will understand it completely. So, every situation is different.. Same with email answers.. maybe whist answering the email, a machine crashed, or somebody got cut, etc. etc.. well. this would surely cut the email sort.

So, taking offense to any and all viewed " insufficeint" email answers In my opinion, is NOT always as simple as saying that the company did not care to fully answer your query.. There is usually a better reason than that for poor representation..

IMO of course,

Kelsey
 
It's food to see someone asking about this withour slamming the company :beer;
IMO you MUST call on the phone when you are a serious customer and are really looking to spend $$. It just takes too long to give a complete answer or to be completely sure you understand the question and any and all variables that may be involved with an answer when dealing with e-mail.
I do business both e-mail, here on snowest, by phone and walk-ins. It takes many e-mails back and forth to get even basic info that can be had in a quick phone call.
Alot of businesses don't even answer their e-mail AT ALL, they just get too busy and have their plate full just with in-person and phone business.....e-mail always takes a back seat to these. JMO-:beer;:)
 
Thanks Fearless Catman
2 and 3 probably pertain to lots of us.
I'm not the greatest phone communicator, and even worse at spelling and grammar.
Thanks to spell and grammar check I now can send readable e-mails.
 
This a very good topic..



FearlessCatMan.. Nice to see you back on the forums.. I remember having a relay conversation with your operator many years ago.. Your situation is truley unique..no doubt..I actully remember asking why we had an relay. Again, nice to see you back on the forums.


Kelsey

Haha, yeah I remember talking to you a long time ago. I had a good business transaction with you and your products had done what you have said they would do. Since I no longer have the sled I used your products on, I was wondering if you had anything coming for the 2010 m8? If you do, I would definately use your products again for my new ride.
 
Haha, yeah I remember talking to you a long time ago. I had a good business transaction with you and your products had done what you have said they would do. Since I no longer have the sled I used your products on, I was wondering if you had anything coming for the 2010 m8? If you do, I would definately use your products again for my new ride.


FCM...

You bet.. we always have a few of the new sleds.. We focus on Cats and Doos.. We have a some good additions for the 2010 CAT.. Our "Drop In" kit should be a big hit on the 2010's... I have already been into the cylinders and they could stand some work also.. I suspect the stock pipe will be optimum..
The 2010 800 will be a great sled..

Kelsey
 
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