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Cantwell Saturday

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I hope this is not a joke. It's hard to tell who is actually who they say they are on these forums.

I understand the need for a permit to cross privately held property, but I don't understand why the forest service would be checking permits issued by a private property owner. The signs that I have seen along Cantwell say "Private Property" not "Federal or State property." So, I'm to understand that the government is now paying enforcement officers to monitor access through private land. Is this service available to everyone? I have property in McCarthy, Alaska and I'd like to have an enforcement officer go check on my property to make sure no one is cutting down my trees for firewood. Who do I call to arrange this?

This is ridiculous. If there is a specific complaint of trespass then a property owner can call authorities to come and remove the trespasser, but to say that you're going to be "checking for permits" means your directly working for the Native Corporation or private property owner. Am I missing something here?

Please, someone explain this to me. I've gotten access permits from Native Corporations on several different occassions, usually for hunting, so I'm familiar with the process.

Agreed, the last time I checked it's mostly Ahtna and State land around there, unless people are riding in the new addition of Denali National Park, the Feds shouldn't be checking for permits on private or state land.
 
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i think someone needs to point out the fact that there is a huge difference between Osama and Obama. not really seeing the joke in that. I was going to school in New York in 2001 and that chit was no joke. Why doesn't anyone rip on G.W. for not catching Osama in the last 7 years. We live in a democracy and our voices can be heard. If you want to be heard than call and write letters to your government officials and let them know about your concerns over land and gun issues or how kunty Pelosi is. You wanna be pissed be pissed at the current president that has failed to catch Bin Laden and is leaving this country in the worst shape it has been in a while. I'm not saying its all his fault, it takes a mass effort to **** up this huge country. Be optimistic about having a new leader no matter who he is. We have a voice. So many people talk chit about Obama and he hasn't even started being president. you are American, dont be ashamed of that.
"you are American, dont be ashamed of that."
Oh I can't even convey how ASHAMED I am of that! That Flag burning socialist scum bucket got elected by Utube and MTV. Congratulations America you've proved that you will believe anything you are told!
Proud Alaskan, Disgusted American!
 

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i think someone needs to point out the fact that there is a huge difference between Osama and Obama. not really seeing the joke in that. I was going to school in New York in 2001 and that chit was no joke. Why doesn't anyone rip on G.W. for not catching Osama in the last 7 years. We live in a democracy and our voices can be heard. If you want to be heard than call and write letters to your government officials and let them know about your concerns over land and gun issues or how kunty Pelosi is. You wanna be pissed be pissed at the current president that has failed to catch Bin Laden and is leaving this country in the worst shape it has been in a while. I'm not saying its all his fault, it takes a mass effort to **** up this huge country. Be optimistic about having a new leader no matter who he is. We have a voice. So many people talk chit about Obama and he hasn't even started being president. you are American, dont be ashamed of that.

Hey AK, we actually live in a Republic. There is a huge differance. Part of the problem I see with the Party Elect is they would love for us to become a Democracy.
For example......in the state of Washington, if you look at the results from our 39 countys, our method of breaking voters into managable units, you will see that the majority of the state is told what to do by the majority of the population. However, the state is supposed to elect representitives that carry the will of ALL the people. This is becoming a democracy. Anytime that a huge chunk of the people have no say, it's bad.
The best example of a democracy I have ever heard was "A Democracy is Three Wolves and Two Sheep voting on what's for dinner".
Bagger
 

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H'mmm... f'm I'm still going down Saturday, I'll be parked wherever there's room and I'll be headed wherever there's some untouched stumps and buried part breakers. :D
 
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Derrick here,
We will be out checking for permits in the Cantwell area the next few weekends of snowmobiling. I would suggest picking up a permit or printing one off online if you would like to park at Mile 198. There is not a whole lot we can do about it becuase the Native Association has a say over the lands there. Thanks for your time.

Derrick

Derrick, please correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe state law requires all private land owners to provide right of way access to property behind theirs..in other words their should be right of way avenues across this property as required by law?
 
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theultrarider

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Derrick, I have great repect for the rangers out of Seward, but, isn't Cantwell a little out of the juridiction of the Chucach National Forest Service/ Seward District? Something does not sound right there unless You are implying that some other branch of enforcement will be there?:confused:
 
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I could have sworn "fs_ranger_seward" was a made up account that surfaced in the big fiasco with the TEH HITMAN. The real guy was FS_Ranger or something like that. I think you guys are getting played by some local snowesters.
 
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theultrarider

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I could have sworn "fs_ranger_seward" was a made up account that surfaced in the big fiasco with the TEH HITMAN. The real guy was FS_Ranger or something like that. I think you guys are getting played by some local snowesters.

Good catch AkREV151!!! You are right. It's rev440ak playing games again. Grow up Dude... This is a place to share useful, facts and info. Sure there are BS topics and have some fun... don't screw with something this important to many people!
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theultrarider

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Well, I will take you at your word and apoligize. You can I hope, see how with all the crap you throw around here that you get blamed for something like that! Sorry.
 
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i think someone needs to point out the fact that there is a huge difference between Osama and Obama. not really seeing the joke in that. I was going to school in New York in 2001 and that chit was no joke. Why doesn't anyone rip on G.W. for not catching Osama in the last 7 years. We live in a democracy and our voices can be heard. If you want to be heard than call and write letters to your government officials and let them know about your concerns over land and gun issues or how kunty Pelosi is. You wanna be pissed be pissed at the current president that has failed to catch Bin Laden and is leaving this country in the worst shape it has been in a while. I'm not saying its all his fault, it takes a mass effort to **** up this huge country. Be optimistic about having a new leader no matter who he is. We have a voice. So many people talk chit about Obama and he hasn't even started being president. you are American, dont be ashamed of that.

I have to agree to dis agree....one is one man in office can only do so much against Congressional approval or dissaproval (definately not standing up for GW)....second the upcoming administration will probibly cut and run from the middle east letting the bastards come to power again. Being ex military and serving in the middle east in the Marines we were only allowed to do what we were told even if we had the bastards in our sights. I lost a lot of freinds over there (luckily no family) but runing will solve nothing but catching one man will solve nothing either, weakining his regiemes grip of total fear on the people over there will definately put a hamper on his progress. If you had the chance to see the fear those people have you would view this in a different light. In a nut shell i do not agree with Obama at all on his military plan...but i do agree with you on the fact it takes MANY people to screw up this country this bad..and if you dont think everyone in congress knew it was coming including Obama take a closer look....the rabbit hole is pretty deep....I hope he does the right thing and the men and women lost over there werent lost in vain....
 
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Anyone have reports from Cantwell this weekend????? I might head up there next weekend if it sounds good.
 
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Like I said above word is igloo has real good snow. I know a guy I work with lives in Healy and says the igloo is good to go. I have not been there yet this year but I plan on going down for 3 or 4 days after TurkeyDay.
 
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