Cant start ride without it

[W A O]

TALKING WITH MY RIDEING BUDS AND GOING OVER THE THINGS WE STILL NEEDED TO GET FOR THE YEARS RIDEING AND WE ALL HAD DIFFERENT THINGS IN OUR PACKS. SO HERE IS THE QUESTION.
YOU END UP 30 miles FROM YOUR TRUCK,YOU CANT GET OUT, HELP WILL FIND YOU IN THE AM, BUT YOU HAVE TO SPEND THE NIGHT.
WHAT LITTLE SECRET THINGS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BACK PAC TO SURVIVE THE NIGHT. YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THAT I DIDNT THINK OF OR YOURS MIGHT BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE ALL HAVE.
HELP US ALL OUT AND LETS MAKE A LIST TO HELP ALL OF US MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE SMALL THINGS THAT MIGHT JUST SAVE OUR LIFES.
ONE THING I HAVE THAT MY RIDEING BUDS DIDNT THINK OF IS A 10+10 TARP IN MY PAC TO HELP BUILD A SHELTER TO STAY OUT OF THE WIND.
WHATS IN YOUR PAC

 

[justn]

My dad carries a JetBoil system on his sled along with some freeze dried meals, oatmeal, and tea. Its nice to have, even if we don't nessacarrily use it in a survival situation.

 

[polaris660rmk]

i carry a trap and a space blanket matches a couple freeze dried meals, one of those aluim blocks that you shave off to help start the fire a ziploc of coffee got it down to 10 pounds

 

[W A O]

i carry a trap and a space blanket matches a couple freeze dried meals, one of those aluim blocks that you shave off to help start the fire a ziploc of coffee got it down to 10 pounds

WEIGHT IS A BIG DEAL BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH TO SURVIVAL AS WELL
I ALSO HAVE A SMALL CANDLE, A SPACE BLANKET,A SORT OF WICK FROM CAMPING STORE THAT WILL BURN FOR 5min. AND A SMALL COIL OF ROPE AND I ALWAYS TAKE BEEF JERKY, IF I DONT NEED IT FOR SURVIVAL I EAT IT ON THE WAY HOME.

 

[89sandman]

I carry a laptop with the caplocks off

 

[TREE_MAGNET_777]

One of the best things is a TAMPON for you if you can't muster enough to get out!!!! Really though a tampon has a string to hold on to so you can drop it in your gas tank and it will absorb enough fuel to start a fire anywhere. That and corn chips burn well also. G

 

[IDAHO HOT SHOT]

Buy yourself a SPOT

 

[XFIRE800]

I picked up a sno bunje survival kit, I also carry tools, zip ties, space blanket, small mirror, sno bunje saw, fire starting sticks, waterproof matches, whistle, candles, 30' rope (from my sno bunje ratchet system) candy bars, jerkey, water, and i will be adding an empty soup can and some hot chocolate, probly missed a couple things. Do a search on this, there are some really good threads with a lot of items.

 

[jzillmer34]

I carry a basic first aid kit,leatherman,steel cup for melting snow,toilet paper,hand crank led light, some head mount head lamp,fire starter sticks, road flares. I know some guys carry tampons....mainly to soak up some gas from the fuel tank to easily start a fire.you should be able to search on here and find many other ideas as this is talked about every year.

 

[DTR]

I have a fire starter, cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly, JetScream whistle, wood saw, 50' of 550 para-cord, a spork (spoon and fork combo), a 1 person bivy (like a space blanket, sewn into a sleeping bag shape), an Evernew 640ml Titanium pot of melting snow, making coffee, etc , JB weld (can come in handy for water coolers, etc (the 5 min stuff), 5' of duct tape wrapped around a marker, mini candy bars, compass, Tylenol and advil, extra batteries, emergency strobe light, and a small first aid kit. sounds like a lot of stuff, but everything weights just over 2 lbs! Everything except the saw also fits into the 640ml pot. Very compact and lightweight. I bought everything for under $120.

I also carry my shovel and probe and a 20oz in my pack, and my beacon, a small flashlight, camera, GPS, and some paper towels in my pocket. I have a 30l ABS, and everything weights about 15 lbs. The empty pack weights about 10 though.


DTR

 

[rexbergstromconstruction@]

duct tape, it does everything

 

[WMD]

Phone number for the nearest Helicopter search and rescue/air ambulance service. Things can go way worse then running out of gas or getting lost.

 

[sledneck_4]

because my dad ownes a survey company he always brings the satalite phone so i doubt we need anything else

 

[Chapman]

My "How To" book by mcgyver!

 

[silverram323]

I found this on another site and liked it so i saved it.

There is a lot there but maybe there is something you didnt think of?


88 things you wish you had when you get stuck in the bush

shovel,with saw in handle
probes
flares,flaregun, pen type
sized down jump kit
including
water proof matches
wind proof lighter x2
hot packs
salt
sugar
high energy bars
airways
pocketmask
lip balm
rope
wire
black tape
1 socks
1 extra mechanix gloves
space blanket x 2
flint strikers x 2
water x 2
emergency water
sam splint
multi trauma dressing x 4
4 triangulars
bandaids
liquid bandaid
2 spare spark plugs
axtra dess cord
gerber leatherman tool
chain saw ...in can
chocolate,nut bars
spare beacon batteries
3 rolls of gauze
mini mag light
super sheers
cpr quick note
stethascope
signal mirror..the one with the hole in the middle
roll of orange flagging tape
one cold compress and one hot
bag of toilet paper
whistle
tea
ibuproferin
sardines
motorola talk about
flu and cold remedy
pencil and paper
22 bullets for powder to light fire
rubber gloves
pocket mask and airways are in my truck at the moment in my real jumpkit
newspaper to start fire
extra ventolin for me
just put my mini visegrips back in
among other things

Another one i seen


Pack and on sled:

Avalanche Training
Snow Pulse Bag
Chest Protector
Klim Gear
Layering
First Aid kit
Rubber Gloves
Enough food, choc bars and drinks for 2 days
Energy Bars
5 Hour Energy bottles(3)
Advil
Whistle w/compass
100 Ft of Rope - Been used many times for lowering sleds
Spot 2
2 Bics
Ziplock packed full of dryer lint
First Aid kit
Tampon (Pads)
Big Orange Garbage bags
Knife
Lip Balm
Halls
3 Pairs of Spare gloves
Toque
Neck Tube
Wool Sweater stuffed in nose of sled
Pair wool socks
TP
Zip Ties
Duct Tape
Tube of thread sealant
Pliers
Multi Screw Driver w/torx
Allen Wrenches
Wrenches
Spare Spark Plugs
Small Booster Cables
Wire
Small assortment of nuts/bolts
Shovel w/saw
Probe
Digital Beacon
Lead dog head light
Chaincase oil(250ml)
5 Gal gas
Litre of oil (4stroke Yami)
Extra wastegate snap rings
fuses
Pepsi bottle of Antifreeze
Canon HV 30 Video Cam
Canon Digital Camera
Monopod

Want/need:

Garmin
Sat Phone
Ratchet that stores sockets in handle (metric)
JB Weld
CD for mirror
Mini Mag light
Flare pen

 

[Engine Pro 5x]

A flashlight,a compass,2-cell phones"never know which one will get a signal" and pretty much the same stuff as listed above >>>>.

 

[ItDoAble]

Flashlight (or 2) with lots of batteries is a must. Gathering fire wood all night means a lot of trips in the pitch blackness.

We all seem to remember to bring 2 or 3 ways to start a fire, but forget it's got to keep burning for ~14 hours.

 

[CRJPilot]

I carry an all in one signalling mirror, whistle, compass, and dry match holder.

I also carry an 8X8 (blue-more flashy to signal an aircraft) tarp to lay on and prevent you from getting wet while laying in a snowcave. Or lay on your snowmobile seat and wrap/cover yourself with tarp to stay out of snow or wind

A can of Sterno (cooking flame) for melting snow in a sardine can to drink, and keeping your hands/toes warm, also will help heat a snow cave.

Also cary some florrescent marking tape, so you can find your way back if need be.

Several hand and toe warmer packs

LED flashlight with headband

 

[Nubulin]

Well, I got to spend the night out in a snowstorm at 9500ft last year. 10 degrees. 8 of us. Most of the guys were not well prepared. A few, including me were. It SUCKED, but all turned out ok.

I had spent a fair amount of time thinking out my "camping kit" and for the most part it worked well. I did learn a few things. My tips based on MY camping experiance: (YOUR results may vary).

1) tarps and cord are a must. We dug a pit, put a few branches over it and used the tarps for a roof. It reflected a lot of heat from our fire in and kept the snow off our heads. I had 2 7x8 tarps and in the future I will carry even bigger ones. Parachute cord to lash the tarps in the wind.

2) Lights. Its DARK out there. Cutting wood for a fire all night in the snowstorm was reality and it would have been a lot worse without good lights. LED flashlights with 8hr or more burn time. Spend the money on good ones. Have more than 1. Lithium batteries work a LOT better in the cold and have a longer shelf life and run time. Have spare batteries. Light sticks are worthless, don't bother.

3) Water. we all got VERY thirsty after the liquid ran out. Riding all day and then cutting wood/moving around in deep snow all night burns a lot of liquid. What you typically carry will not get you though. I had a pot to melt snow, but a full pot of snow melts down to an oz or 2 and its hard to keep the embers out. Seemed like a good backup plan, but no way to make enough water for 8 guys. It ended up being worthless. Bring a big one or don;t bother. better yet carry a lot of extra fluids and make sure your buddies do to.

4) Food. It did not really end up being all that important. You will be busy cutting wood and staying warm. Hunger is the least of your worries.

5) Fire. Lighters DO NOT WORK at high altitude. Matches or better yet a commercial fire starter will work every time. Small tinder cubes like "wetfire" or other makes starting a fire a lot easier since they burn for 5-10 min. race gas helps a lot too, LOL.

6) Wood. the saws in your shovel WILL NOT cut it in a survival situation. We broke most of ours long before we had enough wood. Plus they take forever and burn a lot of energy. Carry a real folding saw. Bettter a hand chain saw like the "sabercut" saw. Even better a small axe. You will need a LOT of wood.

7) STAY PUT. We tried to make a run for it at 2am when the sky cleared and the moon came out. We proceeded to get spread out, burried, and then the snow came back. This was the group call that I did not agree with. This could have been our road to trajedy, but everyone made it back to camp ok. be patient and wait till am. It will suck, but having an "adventure" story is better than wishing your buddy didn't get burried or lose his toes.

8) Space blankets and similar products are worthless. they melt near the fire, tear easily, and do next to nothing. They only make the ill prepared feel better. A real fire and tarp shelter will make a bigger difference.

9) Ride with people that are prepared. It doesn't matter how much stuff you have when the reality of sharing with the group comes into play in a crisis. All of my spare clothes, gloves, and flashlights went to people that had none of thier own with. Fortunately my gear was all dry and I could spare it.

10) Sat phone. I own one, but you can rent them for $80-100 a week. Very cheap for a group. Spend the money. When we realized that we were all going to be too dehydrated and tired to dig our sleds out and make it out without help it was really nice to be able to call and give a location and situation. It really kept people from freaking out back at the lodge and led to a fairly routine "rescue". Our buddies came out at 5am and dug us out, etc and off we went. SAR did come out, but it ended up being a "practice run" for them since they did need to do anything.

11) Remove your seat. Sitting on this made it a lot warmer, more comfortable, etc. Sitting on cold snow makes it hard to stay warm.

There are a lot of cheap survival trinkets out there. Don't waste your money. Buy gear like you life may depend on it and you will be ok.

 

[Nubulin]

Buy yourself a SPOT

I don't see the point of these things. You have to suscribe to the service for $100 a year. You have "I am fine" and "help". Plus someone has to get the message back home via e-mail or SMS. Then they have to figure out what to do about it. Not to mention they use the unreliable Globalstar sattelite phone service that has 30 minute periods of NO SERVICE due to sattelite positioning. Did they get the message?

My main problem with SPOT is: So what is "help"? Are you alone and digging out 5 buried buddies? Are you camping, prepared for it, and will be back in the am? Is someone having a heart attack? Is someone severly injured and needs to be flown out. All you are saying is come help me, not conveying the situation or severity.

Talk about giving you wife a heart attack if you simply must camp and should be ok. She will assume the worst and not hear from you until tommorrow.

Renting a Sat phone is a more realistic option in my opinion. Call someone local and convey the exact situation and severity. Maybe the lodge can come out with a snowcat, or maybe they better send SAR, or maybe Life flight. All different "help" situations.