Ive been riding Timbersled since 2013. I had an St to start with back when they were white knuckle rides to the good snow. Next switched to a 15 Lt and this year snow checked a 137 LE and picked up a Camso. That being Said, I had my first ride on my Camso mounted to a yz450fx last weekend in 2 to 3ft with no base. Not the best snow for comparison but I can say I never once said to myself my Timbersled woulda done that. 50mph on the trail very easy to do, considerably more nimble in slow turning, single rail design or 129 vs 137? I cant say. I was pretty skeptical for sure after seeing the kit in person, the suspension doesn't look fancy by any means. On the chopped road it handled fine and didn't kick up in the rear like I have experienced on my TS. I would say if I was looking to get a used snowbike kit or less expensive i'd buy a Camso over a 13/14 TS. I love my TS don't get me wrong but I'm not gonna say they are the only ones that work. As for fit and finish the rear end fits up just the same a TS, the front is waaayyy easier to mount than the TS, pretty clever way to make it universal. The pre-bled brake is kinda a joke, you still have to be able to route the line, perk is that there is no air in the line except a little at the MC when you hook it back up. Chain maintenance in the field kinda sucks, having to remove the tunnel cover is inconvenient, but some holes for an socket and extention will take care of that. Next ride will say a lot more about the Camso, if I don't ride my completely snow prepped 14 Kx490f LE 137