Cable/Internet whiz

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Here's my dilema, the previous owner in my house was crappy.

He has all the cable and cable wires jerry rigged like a freaking 3rd world country I have one working cable outlet in my bedroom so the computer is hooked to it and I got no TV.

Tried moving the computer to the living room with all it's outlets....due to a daisy chain I can't get enough juice to run the internet or tv out there.

So I'm going wireless, but I can't find a Fing spot to put a router in my utility room where everything starts. Only one I know for sure is the cord to my bedroom and if I used that I would defeat my whole purpose!!! Man I can't stand sloppy work

Anyone got ideas? Do I just continue the jerry rigging and try to split the one cable that I know is good and hope for enough juice to run wireless and the cable?

 

[Weekday Warrior]

dude


rip that chit out and do it right

 

[xrated]

dude


rip that chit out and do it right

thought about it but it's all behind wood paneling...don't really want the headache of taking that out and putting it back up. Not if I can make wireless work.

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

You don't have a crawl space or an attic?

 

[xrated]

no crawl space. House is a split level.

 

[MtnDoo]

All you need to do is find out where the service comes into the house.
That's where you put your cable modem/wireless router/whatever.

From there, take the "out" on the CM, and feed it back into the leg(s) going to televisions. You may need a splitter and/or amp.



--------CM--------AMP------Splitter------TVs

 

[Ex-Member]

What I've done in the past is use the existing wire to fish the new stuff through. Tape the end of the new wire up to the end of the old wire and pull. Cable lube helps a lot.

I'd go pick up a bulk spool of Cat5e and do it right. You can use Cat5e for telephone, just terminate the cable with RJ11s. Then if you want to wire the house for ethernet/VoIP phones, all you gotta do is replace the ends since all your cable's already there.

If you have some time/$, dedicate an area (preferably near where your telco/cable point of presence is) and stick in a rack. Put the patch panel, router, enet-switch, and telephone-switch in that rack. Then put it all on a UPS and don't worry about power outages affecting the network/telco system.

 

[MtnDoo]

If you're gonna pull C5e, why not just run SingleMode fiber?
Then I can help you install one of these. (see attached)

 

[shortstop20]

Home fiber network? Wow, that makes my geeky side very happy.

 

[MtnDoo]

Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch.

But a 1Gps LAN could be had pretty cheap using Cat5 and an E-Bay bought Ethernet swtich!

The pic above is Cisco ONS-15454 OC-48 shelf with a handful of protected OC-12 and OC-3 customers sitting off of it, and a few DS3 & T1 customers off the back.

You could go bigger... (Lothberg OC-768 CRS-1)...

MD.

 

[shortstop20]

But a 1Gps LAN could be had pretty cheap using Cat5 and an E-Bay bought Ethernet swtich!

I'm in the process of making one as we speak. I'm opening my own Computer Repair, IT solutions, retailer store, etc. in a neighboring town.

 

[MtnDoo]

Right on, good luck!

I kind of avoid the computers themselves to the extent possible, but take care of the plumbing behind them. As long as I have a BASH shell, the rest is moot to me.



MD.

 

[Ex-Member]

ZSH is far better than BASH.

 

[Snowizard]

"X"

Cable TV-Internet will have a filter device in-line, in your house where the service enters.

The purpose is to block all the TV channels, and pass the dedicated channel that the internet resides on.

It could be that all the TV signals going into your modem are confusing it, so it won't function.

The filter typically may be a small cylinder/pipe-looking device, about 3/4" diameter, 3" long.
This needs to be in line ahead of the modem.

Might be as simple as you need to find this filter, uncsrew it , and install it on the coax that feesd your computer modem.

Wiz'

 

[Yellow Sno]

"X"

Cable TV-Internet will have a filter device in-line, in your house where the service enters.

The purpose is to block all the TV channels, and pass the dedicated channel that the internet resides on.

It could be that all the TV signals going into your modem are confusing it, so it won't function.

The filter typically may be a small cylinder/pipe-looking device, about 3/4" diameter, 3" long.
This needs to be in line ahead of the modem.

Might be as simple as you need to find this filter, uncsrew it , and install it on the coax that feesd your computer modem.

Wiz'

No offense intended, but this is wrong. The only time a filter is applied to a line is if a subscriber is paying for Internet only, and it would be located in the green box in your yard (if the Tech did his job right). A cable modem knows what channel its info comes in on.

Just re-wire the whole freaking house. If its wired like you say, there is more than likely loose fittings, sh!tty splitters, and the works. Daisy chaining off of a line that is already daisy chained is asking for trouble. Do what Mule said and use the existing cable to pull new RG6 through to a central location (and pull cat5 or fiber while you are at it)

 

[Snowizard]

No offense intended, but this is wrong. The only time a filter is applied to a line is if a subscriber is paying for Internet only, and it would be located in the green box in your yard (if the Tech did his job right). A cable modem knows what channel its info comes in on...............................................)

I'll echo what you just said, but Charter has this filter in MY BASEMENT in plain sight and it cleans up the signal to the modem by allowing only the data channel to pass.
There are no filters in the curb pedistal. I looked.
I'm well aware of how the modem works.
Now maybe there's something different about how they do things in my area.

 

[MtnDoo]

CMTS is a PITA any way you cut it.
If there are filters at your house, its because the RF balancing is off and they have no other way to make up for it, or are too cheap or lazy. The filter doesn't dictate what "channels" the CM is terminated on, the CMTS does.

Better idea - DSL. Then you get to relive the IP over ATM days all over again(for most deployments) LOL.

The US does not have a very clean book as far as subscriber access technology goes. Asia is much luckier, as they have MetroEthernet everywhere, but then again they live in bee-hives!

 

[shortstop20]

The US does not have a very clean book as far as subscriber access technology goes. Asia is much luckier, as they have MetroEthernet everywhere, but then again they live in bee-hives!

.........and their country is frickin' tiny in comparison.

 

[MtnDoo]

Exactly! You can't imagine how many people and businesses are served w/ 100mbps at a cable distance of under 330ft! That's why we're still dinking around trying to squeeze more out of DSL & CMTS - there is a delivery mechanism in place.

.........and their country is frickin' tiny in comparison.

 

[Ex-Member]

The US does not have a very clean book as far as subscriber access technology goes. Asia is much luckier, as they have MetroEthernet everywhere, but then again they live in bee-hives!

that's the price we pay for being the first.

Others learn from our mistakes.

Take a look at our cellular system too. Same thing. Japan's got some incredible wireless data systems, things we can only dream of here. They saw what we did, they went "WTF??" and did it better.